What motivates you?

[1800GAMBLER]

What motivates you to play lots of hours of poker? This is mostly aimed at people who have played 2+ years and are now bored of the game.

[Rubeskies]

$$$

[toss]

Money.

[Klepton]

i bought a house

now i need to make money to pay morgage payments

[Alobar]

bills

[PokerCat69]

money

[spamuell]

I love the psychology and intricacy of the game.

lol no, it's money.

Although seriously I do enjoy moving up and getting comfortable playing against better players for higher stakes, that motivates me.

[wheelz]

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$$$

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[TStoneMBD]

1) gun to my head
2) 9 players with 60 VPIP

[1800GAMBLER]

Well this thread was pointless.

[Jdanz]

nh. Money.

[Klepton]

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Well this thread was pointless.

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sorry dude, but if i could make half the money i am making now doing something else, i probably would...cuz this job isn't that fun

but i'm getting fcukloads of money, so i do it

[1800GAMBLER]

Yours was the only reply i thought none pointless. Everyone saying just money (no [censored]?) seemed pointless. I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

[TylerD]

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Yours was the only reply i thought none pointless. Everyone saying just money (no [censored]?) seemed pointless. I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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They probably would so the answer is "more money" = greed.

(not excluding myself)

[Sponger15SB]

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They probably would so the answer is "more money" = greed.

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So having a big savings account is greedy?

[Seth Money]

Ok honest question, honest anwswer. I hated working for the man. I love the fact that I have complete freedom 24 hours a day to do what I want. If I want to go golfing one day I do, if I want to travel I do. The freedom alone is worth it. And some day down the road when I have a family I know that I will have money set aside from a game that I love.

Short term motivation.

I love the thrill of winning tournaments. Its like golf to me you can never be the best even though we all strive for perfection.

And like all of the prior posts the financial part is a bonus because it trully opens up doors for other avenues of our lives, I know there are to many things I want to do in my life that I couldn't probably write it down in a day... Ok I'm out.

Seth

[TylerD]

Not really the same thing:

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I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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Greed - An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth

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[James282]

To secure financial security for my future family.

A desire to be the best I can be at something.

A worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever.
-James

[TylerD]

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A worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever.

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thats a good one.

[popesc]

Ninety percent of the population is complete morons. Morons should not be allowed to have too much money.

Morons with too much money are attracted to poker. Without a competent player at the table, the morons will just push their money around. Eventually the house will get it all in rake. I play poker to take money from morons faster than the casino takes rake.

Of course, if I ever make enough money, I'll buy a stake in a casino.

[wheelz]

ohhhh I get it.

OK, a worry that I won't be able to make this much money forever, a way to make money so I can convince my parents that I should take time off from going to school, a way to make money so I don't have to work at a real job, and a way to be able to afford the fancy stuff that I always wanted to buy. I also just like to be good at things... I love playing poker, so I want to become a great player. The money is obviously the more important part though.

[Schneids]

1. I hate schedules and the 9-5 life. Poker lets me avoid that.

2. I want to secure financial independence. Moreover, doing that through unique unconvential means has a lot of appeal.

3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

[helpmeout]

Money makes money so if I can make a lot playing poker then I can make a lot from doing little later from investments.

Freedom is the main one for me. If I wanna stay up to 2am and watch cricket I can. If I wanna go on holiday for 3 months I can.

Destiny is in my own hands, I do not need to work for the man. I dont need to suck up to anyone.

The challenge of the game, outplaying people who are good is a necessary ego boost.

[sublime]

3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

Is this fear based on anything? I am not asking to be a wise ass, but because I respect what you have to say.

I have a more optimistic view of the future. Mostly based on America opening the gates to online gambling sites.

[Justin A]

My wife.

I have a series of daily/weekly/monthly/and even yearly rewards set into a three year financial plan I created.

This plan includes rewards for meeting savings goals/hand goals/retirement goals/and so on. It also includes a set amount of hands to play every month, and this number varies, so if I do 50k one month I only need to do 30k the next.

My entire plan is based around me winning only 1bb/100 and getting HALF the rakeback I usually get.

The rewards I set for myself are small and non bankroll consuming...like if I meet my daily hand goal each day I play in a 6 dollar sub qualifier for the party cruise, or if I hit my weekly goal in hands AND money I give myself 100 to play in multi qualifers the following week....etc

I also have rewards built in I only get if I don't spend over my monthly nut (which usually isnt a problem as I have a 500 dollar leeway built into that anyway)

The weekly and monthly rewards are usually based around tournament entries (Like if I go over my $goal by x I give myself x amount of Sunday multi qualifiers). From those entries I EXPECT to lose everytime, and anything I win goes 40% into bankroll, 40% into savings, and 20% for me to blow on toys (but not completely useless [censored])

I find that this is a cheap way to stay on track, so when I wake up I'm not thinking "I hope I can get in a lot of hands today"...instead I think the night before "Tom I need to play about 2 2.5 hour sessions to stay on track" and I can plan my day accordingly.

Lastly, I also give myself time to play other games if I'm feeling bored with limit hold em, as I find mixing things up keeps poker fun

I have been playing seriously for three years now, two for my primary income, and have found through trail and error the rewards/goals system to be the best strategy to stay motivated and make each day purposeful

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What motivates you to play lots of hours of poker? This is mostly aimed at people who have played 2+ years and are now bored of the game.

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If you are bored of the game then play a new game. You can make plenty of money playing Omaha or stud or SnG's

[Nigel]

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i bought a house

now i need to make money to pay morgage payments

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Klepton,

Just curious, how did you manage to buy a house? Aren't you a fairly young guy with no job and I'm assuming (based on your personal confessions) not much credit history?

Not trying to flame you, just genuinely curious as to how/where you purchased. PM please if you prefer not to respond here.

Thanks,

Nigel

[wheelz]

screw pm, i'm interested too.

[Spaded]

Ditto.

[creedofhubris]

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screw pm, i'm interested too.

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Even if you're young, buying a house is fairly easy if you pay cash. Legal tender for all debts public and private, yo.

Incidentally, Jay, that's my motivation right now: I'm buying a house with my fiancee, paying for a wedding and honeymoon next year... right now I've got enough for that, but not enough for that AND a 10-20 NL bankroll AND the travel I've become used to lately.

Ideally, I'd like to sock away enough $$ before the poker boom ends to retire. That would be a lot of money, which means a lot more hours and hands than I'm playing now.

[Nightwish]

Money. But maybe I'm different because after 3+ years, I'm still not bored of the game.

[Nightwish]

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I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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Cause I'm [censored] greedy! This is one of the few jobs in the world where your product is money, not some gadget that you later sell for money. Seeing the money roll in, particularly after a big positive session, is all the motivation I need to keep on playing.

This is what distinguishes this job from just about any other one. Even in my poker coaching side business -- which is still about poker -- the motivation goes beyond just making more money. It's only in poker itself that the motivation is all about money.

[Equal]

I like the fact that your renumeration is "honourable" - the better you do your job, the more you get paid. I have spent time at jobs where no matter how much harder or better you did your job over the next guy, you got the same pay.

[shant]

To answer your question, my brother did not purchase this real estate fully on his own. He has help in co-signing from me and another family member since he is too young to have enough credit and work history.

[Michael Davis]

Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

[Yeti]

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Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

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Sadly this is pretty true for me also.

[1800GAMBLER]

I love you.

[Tosh]

Absolutely nothing, thats why I haven't been able to play for a long time.

[Tosh]

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Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

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That hit home tbh. Most of what I do these days is just because I can't be arsed to make much effort to do anything else.

[Surfbullet]

Why I play:

1)Money. I make 5x more playing poker than my straight-out-of-college idea of income, web design.

2)Competition. I'm a very competitive person, always have been. When I was younger, online RTS games like Warcraft/Starcraft satiated my desire for competition, plus basketball and other sports. Now, poker is my outlet. I love it.

3)The Challenge. Moving up in limits is a big challenge for me, between bad cards and bad play I almost always hit a wall when I first move up. Overcoming obstacles like a 400BB downswing after moving up is good for me as a person, knowing I can rise to the challenge. Plus the sense of accomplishment is fantastic.

4)Freedom. I can surf when there's waves, and play poker when there are no waves. I can spend time with my girlfriend, or my family. I can travel, and still have an income wherever I go - so long as I can bring my laptop, and get internet. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Surf

[Surfbullet]

Excellent post Jonny.

Surf

[jkkkk]

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I like the fact that your renumeration is "honourable" - the better you do your job, the more you get paid. I have spent time at jobs where no matter how much harder or better you did your job over the next guy, you got the same pay.

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I've never thought about it that way, its almost like self appraisal to use a business analogy, nice post.

[bicyclekick]

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I like the fact that your renumeration is "honourable" - the better you do your job, the more you get paid. I have spent time at jobs where no matter how much harder or better you did your job over the next guy, you got the same pay.

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Very good point...

[PokerBob]

1.) it's now my job, and i need money
2.) i want to move up and improve
3.) i don't intend to do this forever, but IMO the getting is good right now, and i want mine. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Schneids]

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3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

Is this fear based on anything? I am not asking to be a wise ass, but because I respect what you have to say.

I have a more optimistic view of the future. Mostly based on America opening the gates to online gambling sites.

[/ QUOTE ]

Given the wackiness of Mr. Bush, I just have fears there'll be the day when he goes after Internet gambling. I feel the fear is supported based on other actions within his administration such as the retarded push for "intelligent design" to be taught in classrooms, etc etc (ok I'll stop there since this isn't the politics forum). My fear about online legality is otherwise based on paranoia and a general fearing of the worst attitude that I often take.

As for game quality I do know the games I am playing in are getting consistently tougher. I have no doubt that it'll be a long time before I'm unable to earn $100/hr off online poker, but the days of more than the top few players being able to earn $500-$1000 an hour I think are not going to last much longer than maybe another year. I base this on no reasoning other than the general truth at all limits we can notice through PT and other observational methods games are getting tougher.

[Nigel]

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500-$1000 an hour

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For players playing this high, and that are this good, you see the game texture changing to the point that this will change? I haven't put enough hours in above 50/100 to notice any changes, but it seems that there aren't many super-fish in these games to begin with.

[sublime]

Given the wackiness of Mr. Bush, I just have fears there'll be the day when he goes after Internet gambling. I feel the fear is supported based on other actions within his administration such as the retarded push for "intelligent design" to be taught in classrooms, etc etc (ok I'll stop there since this isn't the politics forum). My fear about online legality is otherwise based on paranoia and a general fearing of the worst attitude that I often take.

Cool. So we are both looking at the same issue and looking at the contents of the glass froma differnt angle. I suppose the best we can do hope /images/graemlins/smile.gif

As for game quality I do know the games I am playing in are getting consistently tougher. I have no doubt that it'll be a long time before I'm unable to earn $100/hr off online poker, but the days of more than the top few players being able to earn $500-$1000 an hour I think are not going to last much longer than maybe another year. I base this on no reasoning other than the general truth at all limits we can notice through PT and other observational methods games are getting tougher.

Shooting from the hip here-

I dont think its good for the games when people are making that much an hour. Maybe it stems from jealously that I dont make that much (or anywhere near it) but I also think that a small % of persons taking such large amounts of money out of the games cant be good for the long term health.

[Klepton]

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500-$1000 an hour

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For players playing this high, and that are this good, you see the game texture changing to the point that this will change? I haven't put enough hours in above 50/100 to notice any changes, but it seems that there aren't many super-fish in these games to begin with.

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if party opened up like 10 50-100 tables, there would be a bunch of super fish in there

it would be like the first month of opening the party 30-60

[Klepton]

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I dont think its good for the games when people are making that much an hour. Maybe it stems from jealously that I dont make that much (or anywhere near it) but I also think that a small % of persons taking such large amounts of money out of the games cant be good for the long term health.


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no offense, but i think if anyone had the skill level to make 1000/hr, then wouldn't be thinking "i'm taking too much money outta the poker community, i should not play this super fish"

[sublime]

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I dont think its good for the games when people are making that much an hour. Maybe it stems from jealously that I dont make that much (or anywhere near it) but I also think that a small % of persons taking such large amounts of money out of the games cant be good for the long term health.


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no offense, but i think if anyone had the skill level to make 1000/hr, then wouldn't be thinking "i'm taking too much money outta the poker community, i should not play this super fish"

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no offense, but your reading comprehension doesnt seem up to par.

[Klepton]

ok then i don't understand what you are trying to say

[goodguy_1]

sounds to me like you are due for another trip...have you been to Brazil,Africa?

games are getting tougher at all levels right now..you need to take regular breaks to not burn out..

[sublime]

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ok then i don't understand what you are trying to say

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i stated i didnt think it was good for the game long term if a small % of winng players were taking $500-$1000 an hour out of the game(s).

i didnt say what i thought was going thru these players minds. heck, i would take as much money as possible, any capitalist would.

[Nigel]

Klepton...

about that house. inquiring minds want to know man. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sublime]

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Klepton...

about that house. inquiring minds want to know man. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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didnt shant already answer that?

[Klepton]

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Klepton...

about that house. inquiring minds want to know man. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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didnt shant already answer that?

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yes he did, and i get what you were saying now.

[Nigel]

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Klepton...

about that house. inquiring minds want to know man. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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didnt shant already answer that?

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Oops, thanks. Was skimming to see if Klepton had responded and missed that - my bad.

Nigel

[sublime]

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Klepton...

about that house. inquiring minds want to know man. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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didnt shant already answer that?

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yes he did, and i get what you were saying now.

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yeah, basically if i could make that much playing in an hour i would continue to do so until it wasnt possible anymore regardless of what it did to the game. since i cant, i sit back and fire my opinion on the matter /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[TheBlueMonster]

Boredom

[James282]

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I haven't put enough hours in above 50/100 to notice any changes, but it seems that there aren't many super-fish in these games to begin with.

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{{H 510 - V 58 - R 23 - NF 32 - ag 1.0
{{H 10,830 - V 33 - R 21 - NF 23 - ag 1.3

are sitting at my 100-200 table at this very instant. Both play bad postflop as well as preflop. That said, the games are trending tougher, but I personally believe that the trend towards toughness will slow considerably.
-James

[JacksonTens]

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I personally believe that the trend towards toughness will slow considerably.


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Of course they will. Its like a yo-yo craze. Originally the kids that have had it at home are the best, then everyone gets one and plays it to death and kinda catches up. But they never fully catch up 'cos the kid who had it all along has been getting better, and now his got a whole new bunch of sik tricks... Off topic?...

JT /images/graemlins/spade.gif

[Kosstic518]

1. Money
2. Love of the game
3. Competition
4. Not doing school work

[ggbman]

My primary motivation is money, just like everyone elses. The other key thing for me is that feeling that i am better at people at something. When you aren't feeling good about something, it's always nice to turn to something that will make you feel like you have special/unique qualities.

Gabe

[jzpiano14]

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1. Money
2. Love of the game
3. Competition
4. Not doing school work

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Couldn't have said it better myself

[TexArcher]

Money and competition, two of my favorite things...

[colgin]

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Yours was the only reply i thought none pointless. Everyone saying just money (no [censored]?) seemed pointless. I bet everyone who replied would have enough money to live off either from their job or by playing less hours, so why the motivation for extra enough to put more hours in?

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1-800,

I don't know if this will be pointless or not. Until recently (when I took out money to buy a poker-dedicated laptop) I had never spent a dime of my poker winnings but kept it all in bankroll so I could move up. I guess then money is not the primary motivator for me although it is nice to make money off something that for me is a hobby.

I guess for me I have given up on a number of pursuits over my life (e.g., chess, bridge, speaking French, playing guitar) that had I kept up with over all these years I would probabloy be pretty good at by now. I started playing poker before the poker craze and it seemed like a pretty marginal (i.e. outside the mainstream (lol now)) pursuit and I thoght to myself that if I actually stick with it I may have a hobby that someday I am really good at. But for 2+2 I may have lost interest again. However, the level of thinking that I see here (when the boards are at their best) that still eludes me gives me something to strive for in learning the various poker games (but hold 'em, duh, in particular).

Now that I have advanced a little, money has become more of a motivator but not to the exclusin of the intrinsic value I describe above. At $3/6 I simply cannot make enoug playing a few hours a week to make anappreciable difference in my life. But the prospect of one day playing $15/30 or $30/60 means that I could put enough away, over many years, to make an impact on, for example, a college fund should we have kids someday.

All the best.

Colgin

[CanKid]

1) the freedom that the money brings
2) striving to get better than the next guy

I'm not bored of the game though, probably cause I only play ~25k hands/month

[Eder]

Each summer we go on kick ass vacation spending almost entire roll. Just got back...left 300 seed $$ again for next year's hedonistic trip. If things go well it should be a month in Italy for us.

That motivates me to bonus whore/grind and the wife (who hated poker before any trips) is now all for it.

[MaGi]

1) Money
2) Call it addiction? I love the game

both are probably about equal

I got a small sponsor deal starting in november. So for me the live tournaments are something to look forward... having that kind of fun thing waiting you it's easier to do the booring job.

[TimM]

Are you asking because you are curious about other 2+2'ers motivation, or because you are seeking motivation yourself? I am guessing the latter.

The catch all answer to this question is responsibilities.

You are young with no real responsibilities, right? Get some, and they will motivate you.

Money itself, for most people, is not a real motivator. It's what you need the money for that counts.

Some have a mortgage and other bills. Some have a wife. Some have kids. Some are getting older and feel a responsibility to enjoy life as much as possible before they die.

What motivates us to fulfill our responsibilities? Fear. Fear of what bad things will happen if we do not. This is drummed into us from a very early age.

[sfer]

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Extreme boredom. I wake up everyday and don't know what to do, but worse, there's nothing I want to do. Everything is boring. Play poker is easy and the computer is just steps from my bed, and it allows me to exist.

-Michael

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I click, therefore I am?

[krishanleong]

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Are you asking because you are curious about other 2+2'ers motivation, or because you are seeking motivation yourself? I am guessing the latter.

The catch all answer to this question is responsibilities.

You are young with no real responsibilities, right? Get some, and they will motivate you.

Money itself, for most people, is not a real motivator. It's what you need the money for that counts.

Some have a mortgage and other bills. Some have a wife. Some have kids. Some are getting older and feel a responsibility to enjoy life as much as possible before they die.

What motivates us to fulfill our responsibilities? Fear. Fear of what bad things will happen if we do not. This is drummed into us from a very early age.

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FANTASTIC POST. It's funny. I'm married and have a job. I'll probably have kids within 5 years. I am motivated by money and the security it will bring me. I am also better than 99% of HUSHers at putting in long hours at the table each month.

It's funny to me that college kids/full time pros that are young with more time than I spend MUCH less time playing. I think Tim hits the nail on the head when he says they don't have as much to play for.

Krishan

[B Dids]

CARDS IS FUN!!

[sthief09]

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Are you asking because you are curious about other 2+2'ers motivation, or because you are seeking motivation yourself? I am guessing the latter.

The catch all answer to this question is responsibilities.

You are young with no real responsibilities, right? Get some, and they will motivate you.

Money itself, for most people, is not a real motivator. It's what you need the money for that counts.

Some have a mortgage and other bills. Some have a wife. Some have kids. Some are getting older and feel a responsibility to enjoy life as much as possible before they die.

What motivates us to fulfill our responsibilities? Fear. Fear of what bad things will happen if we do not. This is drummed into us from a very early age.

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you're so right. I have no responsibilities. I spend frivolously and barely put in any hours

[Surfbullet]

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you're so right. I have no responsibilities. I spend frivolously and barely put in any hours

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Same here. I really like the idea of setting $ or hand goals that give me some sort of reward to motivate me...I'm going to start doing that.

Surf

[1800GAMBLER]

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you're so right. I have no responsibilities. I spend frivolously and barely put in any hours

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Same here. I really like the idea of setting $ or hand goals that give me some sort of reward to motivate me...I'm going to start doing that.

Surf

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Me too. Party shares are down 1/3 because of drop in sign up rate, def. time to put the hours in while the games are good /images/graemlins/frown.gif so i think it's time for a 1mil before xmas next year goal.

[Surfbullet]

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you're so right. I have no responsibilities. I spend frivolously and barely put in any hours

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Same here. I really like the idea of setting $ or hand goals that give me some sort of reward to motivate me...I'm going to start doing that.

Surf

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Me too. Party shares are down 1/3 because of drop in sign up rate, def. time to put the hours in while the games are good /images/graemlins/frown.gif so i think it's time for a 1mil before xmas next year goal.

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Wow, quite auspicious. What limits? How many hrs a week? I'm in if it's mathematically feasible.

Surf

For me, it's not the actual money, it's the ability to make a living without working.

My childhood dream was to not work. Seriously. When I was a kid and people asked me what I wanted to be when I grow up, I never had an answer, becuase the thought of having a job made me very depressed. I'd rather live in a unabomber shack in the middle of the forest than be a slave to the man.

I loved golf and tried to get good enough to turn pro, but I just wasn't good enough. I had to find another way to make a living without working. That's when I discovered poker.

I honestly have no idea what I'd do if the games dried up and became unprofitable, but I doubt that will ever happen.

[surfdoc]

They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/surfdoc/girls.jpg)

[Sponger15SB]

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They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/surfdoc/girls.jpg)

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awwwwwwwwwwww /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[sublime]

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They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/surfdoc/girls.jpg)

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thats nice man.

[Yeti]

They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/bo0001/jessandjulie.jpg)

[Sponger15SB]

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They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v642/bo0001/jessandjulie.jpg)

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I've had better.

[surfdoc]

Very nice. Obviously my pic is my 2 daughters. How about yours?

[Yeti]

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Very nice. Obviously my pic is my 2 daughters. How about yours?

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tdarko's girlfriend and sister.

[1800GAMBLER]

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They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/surfdoc/girls.jpg)

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That's awesome. I should use that for motivation. Sooner than it will probably seem i'll end up with a family of my own and being free from money around that time would be amazing for everyone in the family.

[Surfbullet]

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They do. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v709/surfdoc/girls.jpg)

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V nice. I saw the URL and expected something quite different, TBH.

Surf

[surfdoc]

him: its funny that you use your kids as motivation
me: college tuition
him: but your an er physician
him: you should be makinng a ton
him: and hsoulndt need the extra $$
me: dude, you always need extra
him: i guess i'll figure that out in a few years
me: ya
me: work is hard
me: dont want to do it past 55
him: right now i can't even fatham what it would be like to make 100k/yr



Bottom line is that poker can be used as a primary or secondary source of income and extra money is only going to help take care of the family better. These girls are precious (obviously) but they are also expensive. When I decide to log off at night I think about how their preshool costs 2k/month. I think about 200K for college tuition and another 100-150K for their weddings. I also want to spend time vacationing with them and surfing exotic spots when they turn into little rippers. All this costs money and while curbing a lifestyle and earning less money is fine, there is also nothing wrong with eating at nicer places, taking more trips, and generally having more fun. For all you early 20s guys I just really hope you are smart enough to siphen some bankroll off and buy homes, stocks, or whatever. Something that will always be there and won't be able to be pushed into the center of the table.

[Surfbullet]

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For all you early 20s guys I just really hope you are smart enough to siphen some bankroll off and buy homes, stocks, or whatever. Something that will always be there and won't be able to be pushed into the center of the table.

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This is excellent advice. I'm a "young 20s guy" with very few financial responsibilities... any recommendations for investing this loose capital I've got? Most of the ideas I've heard basically refer to real estate or the stock market... I'd like to get some passive income rolling; poker's great but it only pays as much as I play.

Thanks for any advice,

Surf

[bdk3clash]

Lately? Getting unstuck.

(waaaaaah)

[TripleH68]

Vacation. I use my poker winnings to go on really nice vacations.
This helps my girlfriend understand why I play as much as I do also. Perfect.

Next trip: Mexican Riviera in the dead of winter.

[KaBoom]

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Lately? Getting unstuck.

(waaaaaah)

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I know the feeling. But after a real rough 6 weeks of bad luck, tilt, bad play and totally crippling my bankroll I finally wake up somehow and remember that tight is right and have a winning session. I had another one today. Wow, 2 in a row. This is the beginning of a very long upswing and I feel more motivated than ever!

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For all you early 20s guys I just really hope you are smart enough to siphen some bankroll off and buy homes, stocks, or whatever. Something that will always be there and won't be able to be pushed into the center of the table.

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This is excellent advice. I'm a "young 20s guy" with very few financial responsibilities... any recommendations for investing this loose capital I've got? Most of the ideas I've heard basically refer to real estate or the stock market... I'd like to get some passive income rolling; poker's great but it only pays as much as I play.

Thanks for any advice,

Surf

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Try the stock market forum.

[sublime]

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For all you early 20s guys I just really hope you are smart enough to siphen some bankroll off and buy homes, stocks, or whatever. Something that will always be there and won't be able to be pushed into the center of the table.

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This is excellent advice. I'm a "young 20s guy" with very few financial responsibilities... any recommendations for investing this loose capital I've got? Most of the ideas I've heard basically refer to real estate or the stock market... I'd like to get some passive income rolling; poker's great but it only pays as much as I play.

Thanks for any advice,

Surf

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Try the stock market forum.

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Try reading "a random walk down wall st" by Burton Malkeil (sp?).

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Malkiel.

scrub

[whiskeytown]

getting back into the black and finally making a profit for the year -

that's all I got

RB

[SoSo]

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Cash rules everything around me, CREAM get the money, Dollar Dollar Bills Y'all.

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[Lawrence Ng]

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Well this thread was pointless.

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NH.

Lawrence

[x2ski]

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What motivates you to play lots of hours of poker? This is mostly aimed at people who have played 2+ years and are now bored of the game.

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Right now, I'm motivated to get out of this bumpy run (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3367819&page=0&view=c ollapsed&sb=5&o=14&vc=1) I'm having right now and show a profit for this month.

It's kind of funny, 'cause when I'm stuck, I'm motivated to get un-stuck and play a lot of hands (6,000 yesterday). I don't go into a "win at all costs" tilt-mentality, but a "play through this, you weak bastard" mentality.

When I'm winning hand over fist, I relax on how many hands I play, and think about what I want to buy, and what businesses I want to start in a couple of years with all of my poker bling.

This month is putting things in perspective. I have a wife and new baby to provide for, insurance to pay, bills to take care of, and quarterly estimated taxes due on the 15th. So I'm motivated to crank out hands.

In the long-run, I'm looking forward to closing on a house by next July (hopefully finances are in order come April) and moving up to limits where I need to make wise investments with my excess bankroll (real estate etc.) instead of sweating it out on months like these.

Basically, I would like to milk the poker boom for all she's got to the point that if/when the bubble bursts, I have options beyond grinding it out for peanuts.

[BigBaitsim (milo)]

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3. I'm afraid our time is running out with games this good/legality.

Is this fear based on anything? I am not asking to be a wise ass, but because I respect what you have to say.

I have a more optimistic view of the future. Mostly based on America opening the gates to online gambling sites.

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Given the wackiness of Mr. Bush, I just have fears there'll be the day when he goes after Internet gambling. I feel the fear is supported based on other actions within his administration such as the retarded push for "intelligent design" to be taught in classrooms, etc etc (ok I'll stop there since this isn't the politics forum). My fear about online legality is otherwise based on paranoia and a general fearing of the worst attitude that I often take.

As for game quality I do know the games I am playing in are getting consistently tougher. I have no doubt that it'll be a long time before I'm unable to earn $100/hr off online poker, but the days of more than the top few players being able to earn $500-$1000 an hour I think are not going to last much longer than maybe another year. I base this on no reasoning other than the general truth at all limits we can notice through PT and other observational methods games are getting tougher.

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This is the correct answer.

[theBruiser500]

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As for game quality I do know the games I am playing in are getting consistently tougher. I have no doubt that it'll be a long time before I'm unable to earn $100/hr off online poker, but the days of more than the top few players being able to earn $500-$1000 an hour I think are not going to last much longer than maybe another year. I base this on no reasoning other than the general truth at all limits we can notice through PT and other observational methods games are getting tougher.

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that's what i thought for a while too, but then lately the NL games seem just as good as ever to me. maybe it's in cycles or kind of random and you just can't see it yet?

revenge