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helpmeout
09-03-2005, 12:05 AM
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

Opponent is 46/12/1.3 or so

With 2 diamonds on the board I really have to raise the flop take the freecard and call on the river right?

7ontheline
09-03-2005, 01:18 AM
This board I would usually raise the flop and check the turn. THe painful part is when the bastard villain donks the turn - In a small pot I guess you have to fold.

Dudd
09-03-2005, 03:09 AM
With two overs plus a draw to the K high flush, no one should ever fold that turn.

mute
09-03-2005, 10:08 AM
Yes, raise the flop. Opponent could be betting a draw, and you might get BB to fold a weak pair.

If you had raised the flop, I think you should bet most turn cards as well, and take a free showdown. I don't like giving him a free card, if he is drawing, and also risking getting bluffed off the best hand on the river.

If the turn had been 2 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, I think you should probably call down, but folding the river in this case looks prudent.

Surfbullet
09-03-2005, 10:22 AM
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If you had raised the flop, I think you should bet most turn cards as well, and take a free showdown. I don't like giving him a free card, if he is drawing, and also risking getting bluffed off the best hand on the river.


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If hero checks behind the turn it's so he can call a river bet on most safe cards and snap off a bluff. At 10/20 we will often be checkraised by a worse hand on the turn here, but not often enough to warrant calling down the c/r (unless the turn card brings us the FD, in which case we'd rather take the free card again so not to have to pay 2 BBs).

Hero will snap off many river bluffs with this line. It's one I like, especially vs very aggressive players(or unknowns.)

Surf

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09-03-2005, 10:24 AM
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With 2 diamonds on the board I really have to raise the flop take the freecard and call on the river right?

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Eh, depends on the specific opponent. As you know, many 10/20ers will 3bet the flop and lead the turn with any piece of that board specifically not to give you a free card on the turn with overs. If he's one of those then calling is better, if not the free card play is better.

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helpmeout
09-03-2005, 10:35 AM
And also raise the river when i improve.

7ontheline
09-03-2005, 12:24 PM
Oops, missed flush draw. Eh, I probably call it down anyway when I'm playing.

flawless_victory
09-03-2005, 02:40 PM
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With 2 diamonds on the board I really have to raise the flop take the freecard and call on the river right?

[/ QUOTE ]right. you got a little bit of the flop... id raise evry single time.
as played, i believe the river fold is good.

sublime
09-03-2005, 03:29 PM
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With 2 diamonds on the board I really have to raise the flop take the freecard and call on the river right?

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Eh, depends on the specific opponent. As you know, many 10/20ers will 3bet the flop and lead the turn with any piece of that board specifically not to give you a free card on the turn with overs. If he's one of those then calling is better, if not the free card play is better.

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yeah, this is spot on.

i used to raise flops liek this 100% of the time but i was getting 3-bet so much that it was obvious it was not the best default play.