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[bank]

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***** Hand History for Game 2641985546 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $400 Buy-in + $30 Entry Fee Trny:15391800 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Friday, September 02, 18:44:53 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 5 #1014143 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 2: mattymat ( $975 )
Seat 3: dosxx500 ( $725 )
Seat 8: ur_dum ( $1450 )
Seat 10: siblu ( $975 )
Seat 9: XXsooted ( $2190 )
Seat 1: t51rmkiv ( $805 )
Seat 6: corymaddox ( $1015 )
Seat 4: wellsdj111 ( $780 )
Seat 5: baller6969 ( $1085 )
Trny:15391800 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to ur_dum [ Qd Qh ]
corymaddox folds.
ur_dum raises [70].
XXsooted folds.
siblu raises [375].
t51rmkiv folds.
mattymat folds.
dosxx500 folds.
wellsdj111 folds.
baller6969 folds.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
ur_dum will be using his time bank for this hand.
ur_dum folds.
siblu does not show cards.
siblu wins 470 chips

I think you're playing weak tight, push it.

(I play the 22s)

[cha59]

Did you have some notes on the reraiser, like he only reraises with KK and AA?

If not, I think you have to push here.

FWIW, I havent played in games that expensive. Maybe you know something else that I dont.

[bank]

Help better.

[Freudian]

Without reads it is impossible to know what to do. It can go from autofold to autocall, depending on who does it.

I'd probably push since a raise to 375 makes no sense whatsoever.

I'm not even playing and both plays make my stomach tense up. Maybe your bankroll isn't big enough to play the steps (keep in mind that in order to make money here, you've gotta play a $400 tourny).

In the hand, I think you've gotta at least call that bet and reevaluate (you're favorite to the range JJ+,AK). If the flop comes down all low cards, bet out and fold comfortably to a raise, push if you get called. If he's willing to just call here with a better hand, be willing to give him all your chips. Obviously, if an A or a K flops, play extremely cautiously.

Do high stakes players agree?

[ChuckyB]

With no reads I have to push and pray for a moron/miracle. His raise to 375 makes no sense, as a previous poster pointed out (other than to leave him with a nice round 600). He's almost quadrupling the pot which would be a very unorthodox play with AA or KK (especially since you're represent strength). I tend to attribute this play to the "I have a low-medium pair and I want you to go away" philosophy.

Without any prior knowledge I can't think of a situation this far from the money that I would lay down the 3rd-best starting hand.

If you call and lose you've got 475 to play with. That's a lot of time to wait for a hand since you're still at 10/15. If you win, you have 2450 and a donk-free cruise into the money in the top-5.

Can't fold, can't call (what if an A or a K flops?)...Push.

[Weatherhead03]

Push and hope for JJ or AKs..or you could just hit a Q. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

I think your fold is the correct play. QQ can't really stand that big of a reraise this early in the game. You only lost 70 chips put it behind you and move on. Or on the flip side. U can take a flop and try and hit your hand. I think chances are good he has something along the lines of AK at which point ur really not favored that big, so fold is a really good play in that spot.

[Weatherhead03]

Do you think he has AA or KK?

[adanthar]

I remember that name from datamining, even though I don't remember the record behind it, and based on that one fact alone this was a pretty good fold.

[pokerraja]

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I remember that name from datamining, even though I don't remember the record behind it, and based on that one fact alone this was a pretty good fold.

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based on the fact that you know him???? or rather based on the fact that he way overbets his AA or kk???? I dont get your post. and why is this a good fold? explain? I think this is the easiest push ever, period.

[Pudge714]

Huge overbet preflop is usually a hand people don't want to play a flop with ususally, TT-JJ or AK. So I stop and go.

[adanthar]

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based on the fact that you know him???? or rather based on the fact that he way overbets his AA or kk???? I dont get your post. and why is this a good fold? explain? I think this is the easiest push ever, period.

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If I know him it means he's a Step 5 regular, and most winning Step 5 regulars don't play jacks like this.

Don't get me wrong, if he's good he could very well have 94o and be making a move, but your implied odds on this hand suck ass.

[curtains]

My advice is not to raise to 70 in the first place. I'd raise to 45-50.

[Taraz]

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My advice is not to raise to 70 in the first place. I'd raise to 45-50.

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So what do you do when he raises to 250?

[Taraz]

I've never played a Step 5 in my life, but I really don't think you could be that wrong by pushing or folding.

I think the only bad decision would be to flat call with the intention of folding at some point. That's 40% of your stack very early in the tournament. I'm not sure how you could bet out and fold to a raise when the flop comes all rags as one poster suggested. A bet on the flop would have to be at least 225 chips or so and if you fold you'd be crippled.

All in all, I would probably push. I just don't feel like it's reasonable to put the raiser on exactly AA or KK unless you've played a reasonable number of hands with him.

[Chaostracize]

Good adivce, the same I was going to give. Would help out a lot in this spot. 70 is a precarious raise that can put you in a precarious position expecially with this precarious hand.

[curtains]

Its just hard to get any value whatsoever with QQ after raising utg in a Step 5 to 70. If I make it 45 and the utg+2 guy raises to like 150-200, Ill probably just fold, but it depends.