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09-02-2005, 05:10 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t200 (4 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t1435)
SB (t1835)
Hero (t1750)
UTG (t2980)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, Hero ????

JonPKibble
09-02-2005, 05:12 PM
I'd raise to 3x the BB.

09-02-2005, 05:14 PM
and after raising to 3xbb whats my plan on the flop?

09-02-2005, 05:15 PM
I would push as fast as I possibly could.

valejo
09-02-2005, 05:15 PM
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I'd raise to 3x the BB.

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That's bad advice. You have minimal folding equity. I prefer a check, with the plan to bet most flops if it is checked to you.

A push is questionable. A check and bet on the flop is better, I think.

Freudian
09-02-2005, 05:16 PM
Unless he is tricky, I'd push this.

09-02-2005, 05:17 PM
I guess I should have also added the tricky part. If he limped with AA earlier then I might just check. But if he is standard I push immediately like it was a no-brainer with my monster cards.

cha59
09-02-2005, 05:19 PM
I like pushing this best, but I dont think its bad to check it and see a flop. You have position.

I dont like the 3x BB raise. This is bleeding chips in many cases.

JonPKibble
09-02-2005, 05:19 PM
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I'd raise to 3x the BB.

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That's bad advice. You have minimal folding equity. I prefer a check, with the plan to bet most flops if it is checked to you.

A push is questionable. A check and bet on the flop is better, I think.

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Checking works too --- but I'd rather give the SB a chance to lay their hand down preflop without risking all my chips.

valejo
09-02-2005, 05:21 PM
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I'd raise to 3x the BB.

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That's bad advice. You have minimal folding equity. I prefer a check, with the plan to bet most flops if it is checked to you.

A push is questionable. A check and bet on the flop is better, I think.

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Checking works too --- but I'd rather give the SB a chance to lay their hand down preflop without risking all my chips.

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I understand that desire, but you risk a re-raise all-in from a thinking/tricky player. Either shove it or take a free flop. The 3xBB raise is just asking for trouble, though.

JonPKibble
09-02-2005, 05:25 PM
I see your point. I guess it depends on what kind of player the SB is.

JonPKibble
09-02-2005, 05:26 PM
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and after raising to 3xbb whats my plan on the flop?

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Is the SB a sneaky player, or predictable (tight-weak)?

What is the buy-in for this tourney?

RhitTaker
09-02-2005, 07:50 PM
I'm not quite clear as to why it's riskier to raise 3x rather than all-in. Just commit to calling a re-raise. If he's slow-playing a big hand, you're dead either way. If he's trying to big-league you with a hand he would have folded to an all-in, then you have all your money in with a 3-2 advantage or better.

09-02-2005, 07:59 PM
he could fold a hand like A8 to a push, but may reraise all in with it.