Are the 5/10 tables awful right now? or is it just me

[DCWGaming]

I assumed if anything, the good players would be migrating away and the clueless players would be staying...

I dont think i've ever had such a hard time finding a decent table.


Am I imagining things?

[Cancuk]

it's true, the vpip are way lower than they used to be (even a month ago) and the pot averages are much lower..but, it's still quite profitable.

All the fish are heading to the beach to enjoy the three day weekend and the last days of summer.

Sounds like a good idea to me.

[BigEndian]

Do you mean now? Just this instant? That's an unreasonable question.

If you mean have they been trending down, I haven't noticed it.

- Jim

[gila]

I thought the games were rather juicy today, although somewhat tougher lately. If you are talking about, "since the big rake hike" then, as far as I could tell today, I thought the games were good. But, just a few days ago, I was having trouble finding good games and went to 10/20 on half my tables b/c the games were better there.

[DCWGaming]

I dont see why its an unreasonable question...

There was just a major rake change, and now (today now) I'm noticing a major game quality change...

Probably its just coincidence but there could be a correlation.

[DCWGaming]

[ QUOTE ]
I thought the games were rather juicy today, although somewhat tougher lately. If you are talking about, "since the big rake hike" then, as far as I could tell today, I thought the games were good. But, just a few days ago, I was having trouble finding good games and went to 10/20 on half my tables b/c the games were better there.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah well you're a lesbian, you can always get good games.


..
..what?

[pfkaok]

[ QUOTE ]
Probably its just coincidence but there could be a correlation.

[/ QUOTE ]

not in 1 day though. the fish who make the games good likely won't even notice the change in rake.

[Michael Davis]

There can't be a correlation. If anything the games should be better.

-Michael

[gila]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I thought the games were rather juicy today, although somewhat tougher lately. If you are talking about, "since the big rake hike" then, as far as I could tell today, I thought the games were good. But, just a few days ago, I was having trouble finding good games and went to 10/20 on half my tables b/c the games were better there.

[/ QUOTE ]

Yeah well you're a lesbian, you can always get good games.


..
..what?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, the famous Lesbo-Good poker game correlation.

[gila]

and oh yea, I am not a lesbo, nor a girl, nor gay; just comfortable and somewhat scattered. I was just messing with ya, trying to stablize the transgressions (the exceeding of due bounds or limits).


But if there is this L/GPG correlation, I may be able to switch some things. (but it could be ugly)

[DCWGaming]

aww..you'll always be my lesbian

Gee I wonder why

***** Hand History for Game 2641232432 *****
$5/$10 Texas Hold'em - Friday, September 02, 16:25:30 EDT 2005
Table Table 29474 (6 max) (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: sadapatali ( $122 )
Seat 2: mkflsam ( $404 )
Seat 3: steff528 ( $330.23 )
Seat 4: dwn4lovin ( $162.50 )
Seat 5: DCWDiamonds ( $1042 )
Seat 6: ongmoua ( $568 )
dwn4lovin posts small blind [$2].
DCWDiamonds posts big blind [$5].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to mkflsam [ Kh 2d ]
ongmoua folds.
sadapatali folds.
mkflsam folds.
steff528 folds.
dwn4lovin raises [$8].
DCWDiamonds raises [$10].
dwn4lovin raises [$10].
DCWDiamonds calls [$5].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Tc, Ts, 4s ]
dwn4lovin bets [$5].
DCWDiamonds raises [$10].
dwn4lovin raises [$10].
DCWDiamonds raises [$10].
dwn4lovin calls [$5].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 7h ]
dwn4lovin bets [$10].
DCWDiamonds raises [$20].
dwn4lovin calls [$10].
** Dealing River ** [ 7c ]
>You have options at Table 11378 (6 max) Table!.
dwn4lovin bets [$10].
DCWDiamonds calls [$10].
dwn4lovin shows [ Jc, 2h ] two pairs, tens and sevens.
DCWDiamonds shows [ Ks, Kd ] two pairs, kings and tens.
DCWDiamonds wins $137 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and tens.
DCWDiamonds: feel smart?

[gila]

[ QUOTE ]
aww..you'll always be my lesbian

[/ QUOTE ]
yes.

[odawg09090]

DCW, you're an idiot.

[DCWGaming]

way to leave out the next line

which is

DCWDiamonds: ugh sorry, bad day

You should get over yourself and your mediocre winrate.

[DCWGaming]

take it to PMs, no reason to bring this minor slip/apology into the public forums

quit stirring up drama

[wheelz]

How shocking, the "non-berating challenge" came to an end

[DCWGaming]

the challenged ended after 1 week, i kept doing it out of courtesy.


You couldnt wait for me to slip could you?

Post deleted by mkflsam

[wheelz]

I couldn't care less, but as I was perusing the thread I saw that hand posted and found it quite humourous.

[DCWGaming]

Why are you still in a public thread.

PMs exist, use them.

I just find it hillarious you make fun of people at 5/10 when you yourself can't even make it at 10/20 or higher.

[DCWGaming]

[ QUOTE ]
I couldn't care less, but as I was perusing the thread I saw that hand posted and found it quite humourous.

[/ QUOTE ]

Quite hilarious that i had 1 slip (actually i've had 1 or 2 others, but i wasnt taddled on) over 130+ hours of play.

Damn, that really is rare.


and mkf - the fact that you left out my apology, which I added PROMPTLY after the slip, shows there is obviously some bias in you. Leave the drama off of the public forums and quit hijacking my thread which has nothing to do with it. K?

[Catt]

[ QUOTE ]
Why are you still in a public thread.

PMs exist, use them.

[/ QUOTE ]

Perhaps because berating you publicly may have positive effects similar to those that you seem to believe berating players publicly at the tables has? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[DCWGaming]

You kids really are relentless.

This slip was minor at most. And you take it upon yourselves to hijack my thread.

This is absolutely ridiculous.

Take your bias elsewhere, I will not be adding one more reply or reading yours.

[gila]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I and quit hijacking my thread which has nothing to do with it. K?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yea, look what this thread had become, and I had hoped it had turned too my coming out party.

[Catt]

Tough to hijack a ridiculous and pointless thread. I though these types of threads exist to go off on tangents? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[oreogod]

Yes because since a fish really has no clue how to play the game or the fact that u should occassionally pay attention to what your opponent may have...they have paid attention to the rake and vacated the premises. Because giving away money w/ a lower rake was much tougher than giving money away w/ a higher rake and have decided to take their investing elsewhere.

[sublime]

[ QUOTE ]
I dont see why its an unreasonable question...

There was just a major rake change, and now (today now) I'm noticing a major game quality change...

Probably its just coincidence but there could be a correlation.

[/ QUOTE ]

last weekend of the summer.

the rake change has next to nothing to do with this.

[fyodor]

brb

[partygirluk]

I have datamined 15,195 5/10 6 max hands today. Average VPIP 38.64

Average for my database as a whole is 38.66

[gila]

[ QUOTE ]
I have datamined 15,195 5/10 6 max hands today. Average VPIP 38.64

Average for my database as a whole is 38.66

[/ QUOTE ]

That's hugh

[stigmata]

I just personally tested these tables out, and can 100% proof-positive certify that they are very, very good.

[MicroBob]

small sample, 2 random tables opened (5/10) and I'm still playing on both:

opponents include:
table 1 = 58/37, 56/3
table 2 = 52/30, 44/2

[RunDownHouse]

All this talk of how tough the 5/10 tables have gotten prompts me to ask...

Are the 3/6 actually tougher? Aside from anectdotal evidence I've heard, I seem to have a somewhat hard time finding a table with 2 >45% VPIP players at 3/6. This means I should just jump to 5/10, right?

[wheelz]

If you have the bankroll, you should move there anyway.

[einbert]

[ QUOTE ]

DCWDiamonds wins $137 from the main pot with two pairs, kings and tens.
DCWDiamonds: feel smart?

[/ QUOTE ]
Wow you feel the need to berate the fish even when you don't get drawn out.

People like you have cost me a lot of money over the last 8 months.

STFU next time.

[MicroBob]

The reason DCW is upset is that this was already brought up in a different thread.
He defended his table-berating as 'strategy' that actually puts his opponents on tilt. Something like that anyway.

Obviously most of the HUSH forum agrees with your advice though...but DCW doesn't seem interested in changing.

[MicroBob]

[ QUOTE ]
Aside from anectdotal evidence I've heard, I seem to have a somewhat hard time finding a table with 2 >45% VPIP players at 3/6.

[/ QUOTE ]


This strikes me as odd.
I don't even put my name on ANY wait-lists or anything...and every time I've played 3/6 6-max (every once in awhile over the past few weeks) and just go to the first open-table I almost ALWAYS have at least 1 fish and usually 2.

Maybe I was only playing the 3/6 on the weekends or something (don't recall)...


Right now I'm playing 3 tables...all of which were just the 'first-available'

5/10 table 1 opponents = 75/0, 67/40 (also an 86/0 with only 7 hands who looks promising). Unfortunately, the 67/40 finally busted-out. Hoping he re-buys.

5/10 table 2 = 56/24, 44/6, 39/8

10/20 table = 68/2, 48/11


Again, Ive practived ZERO table-selection today. Just hanging out on the first tables I got taken to.


(update - oh happy day. the fish did indeed re-buy...and the new guy is now 80/0 after 20 hands so has convinced me of his fishyness)