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Lmn55d
09-02-2005, 01:21 PM
Ok villain is 37/21 with 2.08 AF When he caps the flop, I put him on 77, A6, a flush draw, or 89. A flush or straight draw might not cap though, this guy isn't overly aggro and it looks like i have monster. The turn completed the 89 straight so I figured I'd risk the free card to flush draw and check. So when he checks through its obvious he has a flush draw. I figured the only way I'd get some money is if he paired or wants to bluff it after my odd river check. He might pay off with a jack or T, he might not. I was pretty sure he'd bet one though, especially the jack. So I figured a checkraise could induce a bluff, and be so weird that it very well might get 2 from a weaker pair. Clever or stupid? Also, is the turn check real bad?


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Preflop: Hero is SB with A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button caps</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (9.50 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button checks.

River: (9.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, Button calls.

Final Pot: 13.50 BB
Lmn55d
09-02-2005, 04:31 PM
bump
wheelz
09-02-2005, 04:35 PM
I'll vote clever. I don't like checking the turn though.
Lmn55d
09-02-2005, 04:37 PM
too great a chance he has a flushdraw?
GoHoosiers
09-02-2005, 04:42 PM
If he is indeed on a flush draw, why on earth would you give him a chance at a free card?

Bet the turn, call down if raised.


Rich
wheelz
09-02-2005, 04:46 PM
I think a flush draw is quite likely. Some other random worse hand that he'll call down with is possible too.
Lmn55d
09-02-2005, 04:50 PM
well I figure the random worse hand is betting this turn anyway, right? Unless you think it's decently likely he'll be willing to put in 2 with a worse hand like 88 or 99.
wheelz
09-02-2005, 04:54 PM
I think he's more likely to have a flush draw though
Lmn55d
09-02-2005, 05:04 PM
yea I guess you're right. There are a lot more possible flush draw combos a semi-loose player could have than there are hands that beat me. Also a decent play holding a hand that beats me will often call my flop 3bet and raise the turn.
etizzle
09-02-2005, 05:54 PM
youre thinking on the river is correct IMO. He will bet any hand he is calling with. Youre river check makes it look like AK-AQ.

Its obvious he cant beat AA when he checks the turn, so youd have to bet a big pair right? When you dont bet he will value bet most pairs expecting to get called by A high.

Whether or not to bet the turn is another issue and close IMO but a bet is probably better. He may very well have just a 7.
tizim
09-02-2005, 06:14 PM
About how many combos of flush draws do you think he can have?
Smarty
09-02-2005, 06:32 PM
For the love of money, bet the turn.
Alobar
09-02-2005, 06:47 PM
what everyone else has said. Bet the turn.