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09-02-2005, 08:43 AM
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Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises</font>, BB calls, UTG calls, MP calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (10 SB) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB folds, UTG calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, Hero folds, SB calls, UTG calls.

The Truth
09-02-2005, 08:45 AM
This is very opponent dependent. If opponent is passive great fold. If they are pretty aggro, 3 bet them.

09-02-2005, 08:56 AM
Well It was one of my first hands at the table, so I had no reads.
But he turned out to be 82/17/1.5 over 100 hands.
So I guess with this in mind a 3bet would've been right.

MrBig30
09-02-2005, 10:11 AM
I fold. IF you are ahead its not by much and you may easily be outdrawn. Your kicker sucks and you may already be far behind. There is a bet and a raise in front of you. Time to get out.

If there were only 2 other players I might consider a 3-bet, but not against 3 including a preflopraiser who could easily cap it with AK or KQ or even a set, leaving you drawing thin or worse.

Isura
09-02-2005, 10:58 AM
Anyone else hate the preflop limp? I would almost always raise/fold depending on the table.

Kimpan
09-02-2005, 11:26 AM
I limp this all the time

EvanJC
09-02-2005, 11:29 AM
i limp this never. anybody else want to opine about preflop?

Rubeskies
09-02-2005, 11:59 AM
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i limp this never. anybody else want to opine about preflop?

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If blinds are tight I raise.

If blinds are loose I limp.

Danenania
09-02-2005, 12:07 PM
I don't think the tightness of the blinds should matter much. If they are tight they fold and you have a better chance to win with a flop/turn bet. If they are loose they call with bad hands and you make more when you hit.

What matters is the tightness of the limpers. If they are both 20/4 types then a fold is best, but how often is this the case? Limpers are usually loose. So I almost always raise in this spot PF, for value.

wackjob
09-02-2005, 12:21 PM
Fold or raise PF. This is not a drawing hand where you want to see a flop as cheap as possible.

The Truth
09-02-2005, 02:29 PM
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Fold or raise PF. This is not a drawing hand where you want to see a flop as cheap as possible.

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I agree.

mcvalenc
09-02-2005, 02:41 PM
I like the limp, this hand may have a pot equity edge against the limpers, but it's not significant enough to make me want to raise, since it plays better in a small pot and you can't really isolate a single donk here. Postflop, without reads I would 3bet the flop.