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dark_horse

09-02-2005, 03:39 AM

here they come. i figured it's best to make them 3 different posts in this subject for easier replies.

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 03:40 AM

Villian has loose/passive stats but is playing laggy tonight. He is taking weird shots at odd times and has gotten quite lucky over the past hour, but recently started on a downward spiral and is beginning to tilt.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, UTG calls.

Flop: (7.33 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

Turn: (4.66 BB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets, UTG calls.

River: (6.66 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
UTG bets, Hero raises

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 03:41 AM

UTG is same villian as above. I can count the number of times on one hand I've cold-called raises on the turn. Was this fishy as hell?

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG raises, Hero 3-bets, 2 folds, SB calls, 1 fold, UTG calls.

Flop: (10 SB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB calls, UTG calls.

Turn: (6.50 BB) K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG bets, Hero calls, SB raises, UTG 3-bets, Hero calls, SB calls.

River: (15.50 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, UTG checks, Hero bets, SB folds, UTG calls.

Final Pot: 17.50 BB

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 03:42 AM

How do you handle this turn raise? No reads this time. I felt a bit like a pussy, but thought that if I was ahead at least I'm getting the overcalls from SB.

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Preflop: Hero is MP with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif. CO posts a blind of $4.
1 fold, Hero raises, CO (poster) calls, 1 fold, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB calls, BB folds, Hero 3-bets, CO calls, SB calls.

Turn: (8.66 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero bets, CO raises, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (14.66 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets, SB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 17.66 BB

Chairman Wood

09-02-2005, 03:48 AM

I really like given your read.

Chairman Wood

09-02-2005, 03:50 AM

cool with me... do you think there should be a turn raise?

Chairman Wood

09-02-2005, 03:52 AM

I don't have the discipline to give this up yet. Pot too big.

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 04:01 AM

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cool with me... do you think there should be a turn raise?

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that would mean i'm capping it. i'm prtty sure i'm behind at this point. wouldn't that be spewing? i'm getting about 5:1 on the call as it is, and i don't know that my A or Q outs are good.

edit: sorry, you meant raising the turn when it comes to me first, not when it's 2 cold to me. yeah, maybe a raise would have been smarter.

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 04:02 AM

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I don't have the discipline to give this up yet. Pot too big.

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of course i'm not folding. the question is whether or not to reraise.

deepsquat

09-02-2005, 04:04 AM

Hand 2 and 3 i like.

Hand 1: is there much value in raising this river with 1 pair? Will he call the river on a bluff?

I might just call here.

opinions?

GetThere1Time

09-02-2005, 04:06 AM

Hand 1: Looks good

Hand 2: Fine. I usually pop this turn myself. The lead out is always suspect. Most would c/r a K. And if we can get the SB to fold a K for two cold then good for us too.

Hand 3: Can't fold. Nh.

dark_horse

09-02-2005, 04:11 AM

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Hand 3: Can't fold. Nh.

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Ok thats two of you who thought I was asking if I should fold. There's no way I'm folding this. I just wanted to know if raising was out of the question.

Peter Harris

09-02-2005, 04:50 AM

hand 3: after CO bets the flop but doesnt cap a 3bet, what do you read them for? I mean... with position and a flush draw i'd cap the flop.

So what when CO raises the turn? I think i 3bet the turn after SB coldcalls and see if it's capped. But i'm mentally aggro.

disregard SB who is clearly a cold calling donk, please give me their sn.

I play 1/2 SH so dont take me too seriously.

Regards,
Pete Harris

dhaimon

09-02-2005, 05:13 AM

I probably 3-bet the turn in hand 3 against an unknown, other than that it looks good. The fact that SB came along makes a 3-bet better I believe.

dhaimon

09-02-2005, 05:15 AM

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 and 3 i like.

Hand 1: is there much value in raising this river with 1 pair? Will he call the river on a bluff?

I might just call here.

opinions?

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these river donkbets happen all the time at 5/10 and 90% of the time it's some low pair or busted draw that wants you to fold your ace high. if they have the goods they usually checkraise.

deepsquat

09-07-2005, 12:18 AM

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 and 3 i like.

Hand 1: is there much value in raising this river with 1 pair? Will he call the river on a bluff?

I might just call here.

opinions?

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these river donkbets happen all the time at 5/10 and 90% of the time it's some low pair or busted draw that wants you to fold your ace high. if they have the goods they usually checkraise.

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so by saying that, a call would prob be better? If 90% of the time they will fold the busted draw/small pair to a raise on the river and 10% you will get called or RR by a better hands it wouldnt be wise to raise.