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ajmargarine
09-01-2005, 11:08 PM

MINETZ
09-01-2005, 11:22 PM
whats purpose of this?

wtfsvi
09-01-2005, 11:26 PM
In case anyone wonders who the guy with 5+ hour sessions is, it's me.

I feel tired /images/graemlins/frown.gif

PaultheS
09-01-2005, 11:35 PM
This could have some neat results, but the problem is there's no continuity.

I'd be more interested in seeing what type of players have longer sessions, play more tables, etc... As it stands, I don't really care about all these individual results.

Too bad there's no way to do the first thing I mentioned here.

ajmargarine
09-01-2005, 11:37 PM
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whats purpose of this?

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This information is extremely important in my ongoing campaign for North Dakota to secede from the USA.

MINETZ
09-01-2005, 11:41 PM
your hilarious! im 4 hour session, 8 tables, 200 NL, >30 BR

PokerFink
09-02-2005, 12:19 AM
I play live. I think that makes me an outlier.

amoeba
09-02-2005, 12:51 AM
if you can consistently play at the level I've seen you play at, I bow down to your greatness.

aK13
09-02-2005, 01:06 AM
.50 BB / Full / 4 Tables / 1-2 hour sessions / party / 30+ Buyin / weak / profit

wtfsvi
09-02-2005, 01:44 AM
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if you can consistently play at the level I've seen you play at, I bow down to your greatness.

[/ QUOTE ] I would like that (people bowing down to my greatness /images/graemlins/smirk.gif). You won't have to though. I don't think my play is much worse at the end of a 5+ hour session than at the beginning, but I'm quite sure I sharpen up when I sit with you.

Still. Thanks /images/graemlins/cool.gif

09-02-2005, 02:10 AM
This is maybe my favorite post ever.

(Where do I sign up for the North Dakota Liberation Organization?)

TreyOfLight
09-02-2005, 02:50 AM
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Over the last 2 months, you have shown....
Users may choose only one (54 total votes)
a profit. 50 / 92%
a loss. 4 / 07%

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Fascinating result. You can't add a poll to a reply, so I'll have to do this one by hand.

Over the last 2 days, you have responded dishonestly to:
___ 0 polls
___ 1 or more polls

pokerjoker
09-02-2005, 03:46 AM
I guess SSNL is reduced to

1. TAG
2. LAG
3. Weak.

Just find the correct one and ur rich.

amoeba
09-02-2005, 03:54 AM
is that a dig?

09-02-2005, 04:02 AM
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Over the last 2 days, you have responded dishonestly to:
___ 0 polls
___ 1 or more polls

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I voted one or more, although I told the truth on this one.

theblitz
09-02-2005, 04:37 AM
I can just imagine the History books:

"The 2005 Civil War centered on the basic human right to play 6-max rather than full-ring"

wtfsvi
09-02-2005, 04:44 AM
I'm just a silly foreigner with no idea what "dig" is supposed to mean as a substantive. And without the ability to pick up on the complicated american sarcasm in your previous post. /images/graemlins/blush.gif If there was any.

But, yeah, sure. I dig you amoeba. I mean, /images/graemlins/heart.gifamoeba /images/graemlins/heart.gif.

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wtfsvi
09-02-2005, 04:46 AM
I lied. For some reason I said I play 4 tables, but I only play 3. Go figure /images/graemlins/smile.gif

09-02-2005, 08:43 AM
+$1.97 counts as a profit, right? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

ajmargarine
09-02-2005, 01:35 PM
Semi-interesting results. Thanks everyone for responding. I see the TAGs still outnumber the LAGs. And I suppose it won't be long before the 6-maxxers outnumber us dinosaurs who play full table.

Nice to see 92% of us are profitable over the last 2 months. I wonder how close that is to the truth?!? It's odd that it's exactly 92% at the moment, because that is the reported percentage of people who LOSE money at online poker. And we are a mirror image of that.

punter11235
09-02-2005, 02:07 PM
Not fair. I cant see the results without spoiling the poll cause I recently moved to 600NL but I am still interesting in SSNL. I will vote for blinds 4$ then /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Best wishes

rikz
09-02-2005, 03:34 PM
Over the last 2 months I moved .25NL to .50NL. I'm winning, but at a much lower rate. At .25NL I was winning about 10 PT BBs/100 after 20K hands, but now at .50NL I'm hovering at about 3 or 4 PT BBs/100 after 11K hands.

Anybody experience this kind of problem moving up limits, or maybe just this limit?

I'm 4 tabling, 4 hrs/session, TAGish.

09-02-2005, 04:14 PM
Why is anybody questioning the 92% winrate of 2+2ers over the last two months? This forum is comprised of people who, simply by reading and posting here, are studying the game far more than most of their opponents.

You (we) should be beating the non-studying majority.

AllIn3High
09-02-2005, 04:33 PM
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Why is anybody questioning the 92% winrate of 2+2ers over the last two months? This forum is comprised of people who, simply by reading and posting here, are studying the game far more than most of their opponents.

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Because a loosing steak (be it bad play or running bad) can "easily" wipe out lots of winnings. I played 21000 hands of poker in august and I'm only up $77.

FlyingStart
09-02-2005, 04:45 PM
Anyone playing at stars? the game seems to be extremely tight there. People rarely calls raises, and don't follow too far with marginal hands

PokerFink
09-02-2005, 04:55 PM
I'm playing stars right now, and I just cleaned out two players with unimproved KK, so not at my table. However...

Stars at night &gt; Stars during the day

09-02-2005, 06:03 PM
1 person (theoretically) has voted that he is WEAK, but that he turns a profit. lol. Look at the disparity in votes. He must have sucked out a LOT over the last 2 months.

DoomSlice
09-02-2005, 06:09 PM
I seriously doubt that 92% of us are turning a profit.

aK13
09-02-2005, 06:43 PM
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I seriously doubt that 92% of us are turning a profit.

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I also doubt that while 70% of the people classify themselves as TAGs, they are in actuality TAG players.

This comes mainly from my experience reading the microlimit/small stakes limit forums, where although players may think they are TAG, lots of players are too rockish preflop, too weak postflop, slightly loose preflop, hyperaggressive postflop, or call down too much.

I for one, know that I am uber-weak at NL (I frequently see monsters), and probably too tight preflop (15% VPIP at fullring) which probably classifies me as a rock. I'm still learning, though =D.

JJJ88
09-02-2005, 07:08 PM
I play at Stars.
Their games are fine.
There are less LAGs at Stars than Party 6Max tables.

JJJ88
09-02-2005, 07:13 PM
I am sometimes TAG and sometimes LAG.
I play TAG in tight tables.
I play LAG in loose tables.
But I like loose table more. It is more fun.
Onetime, we all agree to be "All In" next hand. We went all "All In". :-)

09-02-2005, 08:20 PM
Ok I lied on the poll. I had a recent bad run and although I am still in the black since May, I turned a loss over the last 2 months. I am skewing the poll results and for that I am sorry. I hope this does not ruin your plans for North Dakota. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

ajmargarine
09-02-2005, 08:28 PM
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Ok I lied on the poll. I had a recent bad run and although I am still in the black since May, I turned a loss over the last 2 months. I am skewing the poll results and for that I am sorry. I hope this does not ruin your plans for North Dakota. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

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Yeah, the 2 months was just kind of arbritrary. One month seemed too short, and hey, who can remember from 3 months back. And yes, this puts a crinkle in my ND plans. May have to push the invasion of South Dakota back a week now.

elus2
09-02-2005, 08:40 PM
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1 person (theoretically) has voted that he is WEAK, but that he turns a profit. lol. Look at the disparity in votes. He must have sucked out a LOT over the last 2 months.

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weak tight can be profitable in small stakes nl.

elus2
09-02-2005, 08:42 PM
i play 12 hour sessions at the casino because hanging out with old guys all day is fun.

ajmargarine
09-02-2005, 08:44 PM
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weak tight can be profitable in small stakes nl.

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weak/tight may be the best counter to TAG, IMHO.

aK13
09-02-2005, 08:52 PM
[ QUOTE ]
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1 person (theoretically) has voted that he is WEAK, but that he turns a profit. lol. Look at the disparity in votes. He must have sucked out a LOT over the last 2 months.

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weak tight can be profitable in small stakes nl.

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I voted that I am weak, but that I turn a profit. I only play 15% of my hands at FR 50NL. Since I started playing NL 2 weeks ago, I can't think of a situation where I stacked someone going all in as the underdog.

I think my WtSD is probably sub 20, and my W$SD is around 65%. While I'm 100% sure this is nowhere near optimal, I'm still adjusting. I'd rather play too few hands and ease in more, than play too many and try to tighten up, as at least I know that all the hands I play are highly profitable.