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DMACM
09-01-2005, 04:37 PM
40 places pay out 41 players left. villan had been very aggressive. would you call this?


Hand #8094307-150 at Thu2pmA-005 (No Limit tournament Hold'em)
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Started at 01/Sep/05 16:29:37

hero is at seat 1 with 5260.
pkenmantis is at seat 2 with 3340.
Cancer78 is at seat 4 with 865.
billiardben is at seat 5 with 7325.
bart1979 is at seat 6 with 3420.
slowplaysuzie is at seat 7 with 5800.
steveok1 is at seat 8 with 9765.
Duke is at seat 9 with 18785.
The button is at seat 1.

hero posts ante (75).
pkenmantis posts ante (75).
Cancer78 posts ante (75).
billiardben posts ante (75).
bart1979 posts ante (75).
slowplaysuzie posts ante (75).
steveok1 posts ante (75).
Duke posts ante (75).
Cancer78 posts the small blind of 300.
billiardben posts the big blind of 600.

hero: Ks As
pkenmantis: -- --
Cancer78: -- --
billiardben: -- --
bart1979: -- --
slowplaysuzie: -- --
steveok1: -- --
Duke: -- --

Pre-flop:

bart1979 folds. slowplaysuzie folds. steveok1
folds. Duke goes all-in for 18710. hero goes
all-in for 5185.

LethalRose
09-01-2005, 04:38 PM
everytime

illegit
09-01-2005, 04:53 PM
Unless i REALLY needed the measley $ that 40th pays, then yes.

RiverDood
09-01-2005, 05:55 PM
At first I though this was an annoying but necessary fold.

You've got no folding equity with AK after his push (obviously.) You aren't desperate yet; you've got enough chips to see 2 1/2 more orbits (20 hands) before you're grievously short-stacked. There's still time for something better to happen. After all, there are three players with smaller stacks at your table, creating plenty of chances for other bust-outs or your turn to snatch their blinds after the bubble has cleared.

And I also didn't like the fact that the big stack is sinfully loose -- figuring that it actually hurts you. If you felt he were only pushing with A5/KT/99 or better, you'd dominate a lot of hands. But if he's pushing with almost anything, you don't dominate nearly as often.

But after playing around with the numbers, they still come out in your favor. You're at 65% if he's playing any two, and I don't think that will change much if we throw out total dreck like 83o, etc.

Unless 40th place really paid money that meant a lot to you -- or the difference between 25th and 10th was insignificant -- it's worth the gamble to press on. If you win this hand, you've got a fine shot at going a lot deeper in the tournament. The ultimate test: if you played this situation 100 times, you'd make more money being in this pot.

Sorry it didn't work out.

09-01-2005, 06:59 PM
Easy call. You don't play 3 hours into an MTT just to get your buy in back by sneaking into money.

What'd he turn over?