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09-01-2005, 01:42 PM
I am curious to the multi table craze? I am fairly knew to forum but have been playing online for about a year. What advantage is there to 8 tabling 55's to just 3 or 4 tabling the 109's. The vig reduction (1 % diff) itself makes a fairly significant difference in the long term for your ROI. Curious as to what I am missing?

lorinda
09-01-2005, 01:46 PM
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curious as to what I am missing?

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People are 8-tabling the $55s instead of 3-4 tabling the $55s.

Those who play $109s 8-table at that level instead of four tabling.

Lori

09-01-2005, 01:56 PM
I guess what I was getting at is if you can 8 table 55's successfully then wouldn't you be successful 4 tabling 109's?

codewarrior
09-01-2005, 01:58 PM
Think of it this way - If you can sucessfully two table 55s - does that make you a sucessful 109 player?

lorinda
09-01-2005, 01:58 PM
If you could 8-table 50s, why not 8-table $100s when you move up?

Lori

1C5
09-01-2005, 01:58 PM
less variance, worse players.

jadducci
09-01-2005, 01:59 PM
I don't play either the 55's or 109's, but I would bet that most people 8x the 55's over 5x ing the 109's because the 55's are softer.

lorinda
09-01-2005, 02:00 PM
Just in case you're not thinking very clearly, which I'm sure you are, you don't need significantly more bankroll to 8-table $55s than you do to 4 table $55s.

You do however need double the bankroll to 1-table the $109s

Lori

raptor517
09-01-2005, 02:06 PM
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Just in case you're not thinking very clearly, which I'm sure you are, you don't need significantly more bankroll to 8-table $55s than you do to 4 table $55s.

You do however need double the bankroll to 1-table the $109s

Lori

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well.. this isnt always true. the roi drop can cause a VERY high increase in yer ror if you only have around 50 buyins. that can be quite troublesome. holla

lorinda
09-01-2005, 02:07 PM
Don't confuse people raptor /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Lori

raptor517
09-01-2005, 02:13 PM
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Don't confuse people raptor /images/graemlins/frown.gif

Lori

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ah, but its what i do best /images/graemlins/wink.gif holla

lorinda
09-01-2005, 02:16 PM
Holla.

Lori

09-01-2005, 02:18 PM
Dont get me wrong I am not saying that the 109's are a better play than multi tabling 55's? At first it seemed a no brainer to me but seeing so many accomplished players opting for lower limit higher volume I knew I was missing something. At the 55's it appears you need a win rate % increase of almost 2 points to compensate for the increased vig. Has anyone compared their win rates of 55's vs 109's?

raptor517
09-01-2005, 02:21 PM
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Dont get me wrong I am not saying that the 109's are a better play than multi tabling 55's? At first it seemed a no brainer to me but seeing so many accomplished players opting for lower limit higher volume I knew I was missing something. At the 55's it appears you need a win rate % increase of almost 2 points to compensate for the increased vig. Has anyone compared their win rates of 55's vs 109's?

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ive played around.. 8k 55s, maybe more i dont keep track anymore, and my lifetime is around 16% roi. in the 109s, i have around 4-5k maybe, and im hovering between 9-10% roi. itms on both suck. all of those are from 8 tabling though, so i havent compared the differences 4 tabling.

as for lower buyin higher volume? lol, im kinda testing that to the extreme right now, and i kinda dig it. holla

microbet
09-01-2005, 02:25 PM
Not necessarily the only reason, but you need a smaller BR to 8 table the $55s than you do to 4 table the $109s.

09-01-2005, 02:45 PM
Bro, I'm not sure how this can't be obvious. At the 55's people play worse. One percent less vig does not compensate enough for the tougher competition at the 109's.
Surely u considered this

AliasMrJones
09-01-2005, 02:53 PM
Less variance, lower bankroll requirements, players are worse and hence the games are easier at the lower level. 55's are easier to play both from a skill level perspective and from a mental/money perspective. So, to many players looking to make more money, adding tables seems easier than moving up levels.

09-01-2005, 02:59 PM
I made a mistake the win % diff would only have to be abt .05% for the same ROI. Not 2% as I stated earlier so I guess the increased Vig is not that big of a hit to the ROI on the 55's.

runner4life7
09-01-2005, 03:02 PM
I heard you are 20 tabling the 20s, youll have to keep us posted on how that goes because that is insane.

raptor517
09-01-2005, 05:07 PM
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Bro, I'm not sure how this can't be obvious. At the 55's people play worse. One percent less vig does not compensate enough for the tougher competition at the 109's.
Surely u considered this

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what the hell are u talking about? holla

raptor517
09-01-2005, 05:08 PM
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I heard you are 20 tabling the 20s, youll have to keep us posted on how that goes because that is insane.

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well. i am, and its going ok so far.. but with school and formal rush this week, and vegas this weekend, i havent gotten to play very much. holla

09-01-2005, 07:03 PM
raptor i still think my post makes sense. what the hell are u talking about.

johnny boy