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inyaface
09-01-2005, 01:35 PM
Thoughts on these hands? Bueller? Anybody?

First one i was having problems with the converter so here it is.

***** Hand History for Game 2618437977 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:15269940 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Monday, August 29, 14:41:03 EDT 2005
Table Table 11544 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: chiz7599 ( $975 )
Seat 5: sdw1975 ( $790 )
Seat 6: masterkaster ( $1445 )
Seat 7: curious70 ( $1060 )
Seat 10: ccnow ( $1105 )
Seat 9: PartyOVER4U ( $960 )
Seat 8: Maze11 ( $705 )
Seat 2: lottaluckusa ( $885 )
Seat 3: north_15 ( $985 )
Seat 4: D_Ironbody ( $1090 )
Trny:15269940 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to north_15 [ Jh 5h ]
sdw1975 folds.
masterkaster calls [15].
curious70 folds.
Maze11 folds.
PartyOVER4U folds.
ccnow folds.
chiz7599 folds.
lottaluckusa folds.
north_15 calls [5].
D_Ironbody checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 3h, 2d, 6h ]
north_15 checks.
D_Ironbody checks.
masterkaster bets [45].
north_15 raises [150].
>You have options at Table 11823 Table!.
D_Ironbody folds.
masterkaster raises [355].
north_15 is all-In [820]
masterkaster calls [570].

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1070)
Hero (t990)
UTG+2 (t1015)
MP1 (t1060)
MP2 (t910)
MP3 (t955)
CO (t1015)
Button (t880)
SB (t1105)
BB (t1000)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t55</font>, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, SB calls t45, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG folds.

Flop: (t137.50) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t95</font>, SB calls t95.

Turn: (t327.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t327.50) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets t150</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t477.50

bluefeet
09-01-2005, 01:51 PM
1st: MAN, is that sucker playing that strong. I do like the c/r coming from the blinds on the rags. My guess would be he's nut-flushing himself...attempting to "resteal" (sort-a/kind-a) what he must believe is a top-pair/draw type hand from you. The other hand that might be slightly LESS frightening (considering what you're chasing), would be that he flopped a set. Tough one. All but a couple of our outs could quite possibly be, not outs at all. Hmmmmmmmmm. Would a set push back that hard on what could be a made straight from the blinds? Yeah, guess he could. I just don't know how you get off this one here. I guess I'm coming over the top as well. Not the worst case when he calls with a set, chance he'll give it up despite his assertion if he's flushing (doubltful at this point). Good luck!!!

2nd: I like it. Early blinds, nice PF riase, took your stab on the flop...turn got wicked scary, let'r go. nh.

Edit: You just consumed my entire smoke break at work, thank you very much. Thinking about your 1st one again...In all honestly, I think I could get off having not invested the farm yet. The thing about your push though, is that the very hand we fear he has, in making our push, is the same hand that MIGHT fold to your push - the flush draw. "only" 500+ more is no small chunk of change, when he still has 1000+ back. But we are laying him close to 3:1 to chase his nearly 2:1 draw. Had you had time to go burn one, take a walk or something, maybe you could have ditched it /images/graemlins/wink.gif But I still don't think you can be faulted for pushing this when you did - early or not.

09-01-2005, 01:52 PM
Dont like the first one. Putting your tourney on the line for a gut shot or a low flush draw (maybe he has 2 suited overcards?). You haven't put much in the pot so let it go. If you want to throw all your money in on a draw (when u are def behind) do it preflop. Early double ups do not guarantee wins and expect the rest of the table to be drooling on your chips for the rest of the tourney.

The 2nd hand play looked reasonable for early tourney play.

inyaface
09-01-2005, 03:01 PM
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Edit: You just consumed my entire smoke break at work, thank you very much. Thinking about your 1st one again...In all honestly, I think I could get off having not invested the farm yet. The thing about your push though, is that the very hand we fear he has, in making our push, is the same hand that MIGHT fold to your push - the flush draw. "only" 500+ more is no small chunk of change, when he still has 1000+ back. But we are laying him close to 3:1 to chase his nearly 2:1 draw. Had you had time to go burn one, take a walk or something, maybe you could have ditched it /images/graemlins/wink.gif But I still don't think you can be faulted for pushing this when you did - early or not.

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Sorry for taking up the smoke break haha. I'm think that the reraise of my CR means hes not folding. The only thing to think about is his range and what my odds are of winning against those hands. I'm thinking that I prob should have just folded. I like playing draws pretty hard but as it was mentioned some of my outs could be dead (higher flush draw I'm in big trouble and set i lose some flush outs to a board pair). Also I think a big thing is considering how much my EV increases by having a big stack early in the tourney and it's probably not enough to push here unless I'm at least 50/50 which I might not be. Then again if the villan has a pp lower then JJ i'm a favorite. I really really still don't know what to do here. I think if i was in the mood to gambool I would play it the same way again or if I had the time to go and burn one /images/graemlins/wink.gif. Maybe if I was opened ended I could push with those extra few outs. I guess if i wasn't in a gambling mood, stoned or open ended I would fold.