Where is the drinking water?

[newfant]

Can someone tell me why the people of New Orleans don't have clean drinking water, yet? I'm sure the military has facilities for setting up temporary filtration systems.

Supposedly FEMA drilled for just this scenario (huge hurricane hitting NO) just last summer. It seems like one of FEMA's priorities would have been to drill on setting up water filtration systems so that people would have water to survive.

It just seems like this whole recovery effort is a cluster.

[swede123]

I think the bigger issue is one of logistics. I'm sure they have plenty of water, but getting it out to everyone is the hard part. Particularly since everything is flooded.

Swede

[jakethebake]

Water, water everywhere.
And not a drop to drink...

[Broken Glass Can]

You left something out of your post:

"It's all Bush's fault for being in Texas."

You never forget to include that when you post in that other forum you frequent. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[newfant]

I'm talking about these things (portable filtration systems):

http://www.zenon.com/applications/municipal_drinking_water/emergency_response.shtml

I have not heard about one portable filtration system being set up. We are the richest country in the world and we can't set up a few portable filtration systems during a disaster? Something doesn't smell right to me.

[jakethebake]

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You left something out of your post:

"It's all Bush's fault for being in Texas."

You never forget to include that when you post in that other forum you frequent. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Go back to politics, jackass.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

The water is available outside the city. The need is actually not that big, 100 000 people can survive on 5 trucks pr day, so emptying a distribution facility for Coca-Cola could be enough for a week. The difficulty lies in distribution inside the city.

[Broken Glass Can]

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Go back to politics, jackass.

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You realize that the jackass is the symbol of the Democrat Party. What could be lower than calling someone a Democrat? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

[newfant]

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The water is available outside the city. The need is actually not that big, 100 000 people can survive on 5 trucks pr day, so emptying a distribution facility for Coca-Cola could be enough for a week. The difficulty lies in distribution inside the city.

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Exactly. Water distribution is a bitch. Helicoptering in a few filtration systems and setting them up in various spots around the city would likely be easier. I don't understand why that hasn't yet been done.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

Things are difficult in the city when you're being shot at. There's a whole line of people who came with their boats to help bring people out, but they're being held outside the city because boats and other vehicles are being shot at by people trying to commandeer them.

[Arnfinn Madsen]

The whole situation seems like a scandal to me. They know how bad it is going to hit, they know that a substantial amount of people will ignore the evacuation order. That means that they should have been able to get the logistics of relief up and running prior to the hurricane (designating building as aid centers, having trucks/boats/helicopters with supplies and personnel ready to go in there immediately after the hurricane).

[Victor]

well theres some in the groceries.

over in politics many would recomment a bullet for anyone trying to get to it tho.

mebbe if they just left the money on the counter.....

[benfranklin]

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Helicoptering in a few filtration systems and setting them up in various spots around the city would likely be easier.

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You are apparently much more knowledgeable in this area than those on the scene. Perhaps you could go down there and show them how to do it.

[touchfaith]

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Helicoptering in a few filtration systems and setting them up in various spots around the city would likely be easier.

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You are apparently much more knowledgeable in this area than those on the scene. Perhaps you could go down there and show them how to do it.

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Somebody needs to.

[jakethebake]

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Somebody needs to.

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Oh good...a volunteer. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[IndieMatty]

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You left something out of your post:

"It's all Bush's fault for being in Texas."

You never forget to include that when you post in that other forum you frequent. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Go back to politics, jackass.

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[Slacker13]

It is getting me pissed off. The fed govv't waited five days before assisting people after Hurricane Andrew. It was absolute chaos here after that storm. They said it would never happen again. BS. How can they not be dropping supplies right now? WTF! This is making a horrible situation worse.

[cadillac1234]

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Helicoptering in a few filtration systems and setting them up in various spots around the city would likely be easier.

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You are apparently much more knowledgeable in this area than those on the scene. Perhaps you could go down there and show them how to do it.

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At least he seems to have a clue.The same cannot be said for our elected officials

4 days now without any sort of food/water drops is beyond ridiculous and heads need to roll over this. Considering how much $ we've sunk into FEMA/Homeland security since 9/11 this should not be an issue at all. Getting food, water and National Guard into NO is not that difficult.

[touchfaith]

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Things are difficult in the city when you're being shot at. There's a whole line of people who came with their boats to help bring people out, but they're being held outside the city because boats and other vehicles are being shot at by people trying to commandeer them.

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Yeah gee wiz, if only we had some sort of coordinated group people wearing uniforms that had supplies, equipment, the means to get it there, perform massive airlifts, perform massive supply drops and where paid to get shot at occasionally.

[Patrick del Poker Grande]

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Things are difficult in the city when you're being shot at. There's a whole line of people who came with their boats to help bring people out, but they're being held outside the city because boats and other vehicles are being shot at by people trying to commandeer them.

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Yeah gee wiz, if only we had some sort of coordinated group people wearing uniforms that had supplies, equipment, the means to get it there, perform massive airlifts, perform massive supply drops and where paid to get shot at occasionally.

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Policing via the military is illegal in the United States.

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Things are difficult in the city when you're being shot at. There's a whole line of people who came with their boats to help bring people out, but they're being held outside the city because boats and other vehicles are being shot at by people trying to commandeer them.

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Yeah gee wiz, if only we had some sort of coordinated group people wearing uniforms that had supplies, equipment, the means to get it there, perform massive airlifts, perform massive supply drops and where paid to get shot at occasionally.

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Policing via the military is illegal in the United States.

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I heard a government official on the radio say that this was not true, and that there are certain declarations the president can make that would allow the military to perform local police functions. This was described as a "last resort".

[TheMainEvent]

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You realize that the jackass is the symbol of the Democrat Party. What could be lower than calling someone a Democrat? /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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Go back to politics, jackass.

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[benfranklin]

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Getting food, water and National Guard into NO is not that difficult.

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Another expert who knows more than the professionals who are on the scene trying to do just that. Because they are finding it to be difficult.

Among other little inconveniences, relief and rescue helicopters are being shot at. As are the police who are trying to stop the looting. It sounds like they could really use your help too.

[alta_chuttes]

The Posse Comitatus Act is a federal law of the United States (18 U.S.C. § 1385) passed in 1878, after the end of Reconstruction, and was intended to prohibit Federal troops from supervising elections in former Confederate states. It generally prohibits Federal military personnel and units of the United States National Guard under Federal authority from acting in a law enforcement capacity within the United States, except where expressly authorized by the Constitution or Congress. The original act only referred to the Army, but the Air Force was added in 1956 and the Navy and Marine Corps have been included by a regulation of the Department of Defense. This law is mentioned whenever it appears that the Department of Defense is interfering in domestic disturbances.

There are a number of exceptions to the act. These include:

* National Guard units while under the authority of the governor of a state;
* Troops when used pursuant to the Federal authority to quell domestic violence as was the case during the 1992 Los Angeles riots;
* The President of the United States can waive this law in an emergency;
* In December 1981 additional laws were enacted (codified 10 USC 371-78) clarifying permissible military assistance to civilian law enforcement agencies—including the Coast Guard—especially in combating drug smuggling into the United States. Posse Comitatus clarifications emphasize supportive and technical assistance (e.g., use of facilities, vessels, aircraft, intelligence, tech aid, surveillance) while generally prohibiting direct participation of DoD personnel in law enforcement (e.g., search, seizure, and arrests). For example, Coast Guard Law Enforcement Detachments (LEDETS) serve aboard Navy vessels and perform the actual boardings of interdicted suspect drug smuggling vessels and, if needed, arrest their crews.
* Under 18 USC 831, the Attorney General may request that the Secretary of Defense provide emergency assistance if civilian law enforcement is inadequate to address certain types of threat involving the release of nuclear materials, such as potential use of a Nuclear or Radiological weapon. Such assistance may be by any personel under the authority of the Department of Defense, provided such assistance does not adversely affect US military preparedness.

[cadillac1234]

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Getting food, water and National Guard into NO is not that difficult.

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Another expert who knows more than the professionals who are on the scene trying to do just that. Because they are finding it to be difficult.

Among other little inconveniences, relief and rescue helicopters are being shot at. As are the police who are trying to stop the looting. It sounds like they could really use your help too.

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I can guarantee I have more experience in MCIs than yourself and sending in food and water airdrops is a standard practice. People are literally dying on the sidewalks because of inaction.

But go ahead and keep think everything is fine....

[cbfair]

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You left something out of your post:

"It's all Bush's fault for being in Texas."

You never forget to include that when you post in that other forum you frequent. /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

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Is this how you defend the indefensible? Is it neccessary to point out that your "man of true character" approved only $3.9million of the $27 million requested by the Corps of Engineers for NO flood control this year alone? Or do you remember what this venerable man of honor was doing on Monday as vast swaths of the gulf coast were washed away and hundreds (probaby thousands or perhaps tens of thousands) of Americans were killed or left homeless?

He went to Arizona to shill for his medicare reforms and to eat cake with John McCain.


http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y281/cbfair/r3345646180.jpg

So, instead of helping poor elderly people in imminent danger of death (http://www.cnn.com/video/player/player.html?url=/video/us/2005/09/01/lawrence.katrina.new.orleans.cnn) he continued to catch up on vacationing and politicing.

This goes way beyond partisan politics and you know it or else you wouldn't keep preemptively mocking people who question your dear leader at this time of widespread human disaster.

[BoogerFace]

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Things are difficult in the city when you're being shot at. There's a whole line of people who came with their boats to help bring people out, but they're being held outside the city because boats and other vehicles are being shot at by people trying to commandeer them.

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Yeah gee wiz, if only we had some sort of coordinated group people wearing uniforms that had supplies, equipment, the means to get it there, perform massive airlifts, perform massive supply drops and where paid to get shot at occasionally.

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Too bad most of them are over in Iraq.