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arod15
08-31-2005, 11:26 PM
I apologize the converter failed me.
Here is the hand
4 players remain. Blinds are 75-150
Hero picks up A /images/graemlins/spade.gif 6 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif UTG
I see this as a great opportunity to steal. I told my friend he should bring it in for a raise 3xBB if not open push here with this hand. He mucked it saying A 6 is to weak. While I agree A 6 is generally a weak hand. With 4 players I think it becomes playable especially on a steal attempt. Currently the stack sizes are
Hero (1860)
SB (4355)
BB (1500)
UTG+1(2325)
Given the BB is the other small stack I think stealing here becomes that much more important. If the big stack was BB I would consider folding this depending on how Aggressive he was. But generally I argue A 6 is playable to a raise when it gets to this juncture. Thoughts? Let's Discuss.
Thanks in Advance

Havok
08-31-2005, 11:38 PM
I'm not liking it. You say 4 players remain, so UTG is calling with what? Ace 6 is playable 4 handed with a raise maybe here if UTG folded, but with all the players still to act I'm not sure. I would definetly push here if you were ITM with 3 players left, but I think you should wait for a better spot.

arod15
08-31-2005, 11:42 PM
Part of the reason I like bringing it in from a raise here is the fact he was UTG. Geherally people respect raises from this postion a lot more. Again, I think A 6 is bad but with the postion im in, by that i mean a not blind stealing postion, people will have to wonder if I really have a hand. On the button this becomes more difficult to execute because very few people respect the raises and they tend to reraise with little. I like raising here because i think more than 50% of the time I pick up the blinds here uncontested.

Havok
08-31-2005, 11:47 PM
I like the raise here in the situation too, but what is utg limping in with here is what I'm wondering. Is he a trappy kind of a player that might be looking for this kind of play or has he limped in with marginal hands before and folded to raises. I guess it depends on your reads of utg as most likely the blinds will fold.

ReDeYES88
08-31-2005, 11:51 PM
raising to steal, perhaps. . .
. . . push? there's really no reason with the blinds at 75/150 and your stack at ~t1850 holding A6s UTG

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:17 PM
I am UTG there were no limpers. Sorry if it wasnt clear. If someone limps I muck.

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:18 PM
I read his HH wrong the first time. I thought blinds were 150-300. If that were the case I would open push. But here I raise and try to steal. Sorry I didnt catch that till later since the converter was broke. Then I reread it.

raptor517
09-01-2005, 06:18 PM
i think this is an absolutely terrible push. no way im throwing in 1850 chips to get 225. not a chance ever ever ever. you should be careful about even shoving AJo here. holla

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:19 PM
I meant steal. You wouldnt raise here? Also if blinds were 150-300 I think it is a push? Thoughts?

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:21 PM
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i think this is an absolutely terrible push. no way im throwing in 1850 chips to get 225. not a chance ever ever ever. you should be careful about even shoving AJo here. holla

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When you leaving for Vegas? This is actually Mauliks hand. I was reading his HH and told him he should bring this in for a raise. And push if blinds were 150-300. I think at that stage it is a good time to push since he would still have FE. Thoughts? He is done there Holla if you see them. I would have gone but the leash got me. New Years is my next trip to Vegas.....

valenzuela
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
I hate a raise as well, youre just leaving urself vulnerable to a raise or a call and a postflop bet.
A6 4 handed is cool and all but, payout strucutre dicates a fold IMO.

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:25 PM
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raising to steal, perhaps. . .
. . . push? there's really no reason with the blinds at 75/150 and your stack at ~t1850 holding A6s UTG

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I'd edit it but its too late. When I first read my friends HH i thought blinds were 150-300, under that assumption i believe its a push, with blinds half that i still raise it hoping to steal.

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:27 PM
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I hate a raise as well, youre just leaving urself vulnerable to a raise or a call and a postflop bet.
A6 4 handed is cool and all but, payout strucutre dicates a fold IMO.

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Your from CHILE? i am too. Anyway, your a shortstack here i think you have to get aggressive here and take blinds.

The Yugoslavian
09-01-2005, 06:30 PM
Foldy, foldy.

Yugoslav

The Yugoslavian
09-01-2005, 06:32 PM
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raising to steal, perhaps. . .
. . . push? there's really no reason with the blinds at 75/150 and your stack at ~t1850 holding A6s UTG

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It's not suited. It makes a bigger difference in these sorts of situations than many people realize.

However, even if Hero held A6s I think it's an easy muck.

Yugoslav

AliasMrJones
09-01-2005, 06:40 PM
I'd fold this UTG.

valenzuela
09-01-2005, 06:41 PM
WTF..eres de chile??wtf..

arod15
09-01-2005, 06:42 PM
Yeh i am. At least im 100% pure bred