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Degen
08-31-2005, 04:40 PM
Ok so here is the side effect of opening up the game early...


Comments on all streets welcome

***** Hand History for Game 2630090606 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $100 Buy-in + $9 Entry Fee Trny:15331247 Level:1 Blinds(10/15) - Wednesday, August 31, 16:35:28 EDT 2005
Table Table 12125 (Real Money)
Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: SlowRollin21 ( $635 )
Seat 2: JUST_RAUL ( $1075 )
Seat 3: CASHPLAYER1_ ( $1110 )
Seat 4: Treasures01 ( $1135 )
Seat 5: dadon801 ( $1075 )
Seat 6: NoDice666 ( $1000 )
Seat 7: SANDtoGOLD ( $990 )
Seat 8: TheLage ( $975 )
Seat 9: XarXar ( $1175 )
Seat 10: stevoone ( $830 )
Trny:15331247 Level:1
Blinds(10/15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to TheLage [ Kd Qs ]
dadon801 folds.
NoDice666 folds.
SANDtoGOLD folds.
>You have options at Table 39823 Table!.
TheLage calls [15].
XarXar calls [15].
stevoone calls [15].
SlowRollin21 folds.
JUST_RAUL folds.
CASHPLAYER1_ calls [5].
Treasures01 checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 8c, 7s, Qh ]
CASHPLAYER1_ checks.
Treasures01 checks.
TheLage bets [45].
XarXar calls [45].
stevoone folds.
>You have options at Table 14232 Table!.
CASHPLAYER1_ folds.
Treasures01 folds.
** Dealing Turn ** [ Th ]
TheLage bets [100].
XarXar raises [200].
>You have options at Table 39823 Table!.
Your time bank will become active in less than 20 seconds. If you do not want it to be used, please act now.
>You have options at Table 39823 Table!.
TheLage ?????

bluefeet
08-31-2005, 04:47 PM
min-raise on that turn? i don't think villian decided his TP is suddenly better than yours. i don't play your level, but i would guess you are behind 2-pair at a minimum...just as likely a straight (assuming you see J9s limps where you play), possibly a slowed-flop set. easy fold IMO.

if i planned to play a flopped TPGK aggressively - but with an exit, i might look to check/raise the flop...reevaluating the turn with resistance (folding to a reraise btw).

durron597
08-31-2005, 04:54 PM
I don't like openlimping KQo, you look to be OOP on all future streets against a very wide range of hands and that puts you into situations like the one you ended up in.

If I was going to play this hand, I would play it for a raise, but normally I fold here. I think you were up against 87.

Unarmed
08-31-2005, 05:42 PM
[ QUOTE ]
TheLage bets [45].
XarXar calls [45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ some random card ]
TheLage bets [100].
XarXar raises [200].


[/ QUOTE ]

TP no good against 99.9999%* of opponents.

* not an approximation

Degen
08-31-2005, 05:48 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
TheLage bets [45].
XarXar calls [45].
** Dealing Turn ** [ some random card ]
TheLage bets [100].
XarXar raises [200].


[/ QUOTE ]

TP no good against 99.9999%* of opponents.

* not an approximation

[/ QUOTE ]

Ok, say PF went diff and i raised it and I held AK...u are saying this is also a clear fold?

edit: also, what do u think about that limp? (in the spirit of opening up early...)

adanthar
08-31-2005, 06:20 PM
I'm looser than most of you but I also fold this OOP. Easy fold on the turn after that action.

If you had AK *and* raised PF, it'd be a different hand but a lot would depend on your read. Folding wouldn't ever be that wrong, though.