Pretty much the nuts, any way to get more action?

[mickeynygaard]

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Hand #93314611 at table: Table TH 142
Started: Wed Aug 31 15:21:16 2005

Jean<FRA is at seat 1 with 104.00
Kvasztics is at seat 2 with 38.95
mi0108 is at seat 3 with 115.16
jabi.dk is at seat 4 with 173.55
marine1 is at seat 5 with 107.95
legendash is at seat 6 with 167.00
mickey_dk is at seat 7 with 264.72
racnas is at seat 8 with 58.35
Sandro13 is at seat 9 with 27.00
rouner is at seat 10 with 93.40

rouner posts the large blind 2.00
Sandro13 posts the small blind 1.00

Sandro13: --, --
rouner: --, --
Jean<FRA: --, --
Kvasztics: --, --
mi0108: --, --
jabi.dk: --, --
marine1: --, --
legendash: --, --
mickey_dk: A /images/graemlins/spade.gif, A /images/graemlins/heart.gif
racnas: --, --

Pre-flop:

Jean<FRA: Call 2.00
Kvasztics: Fold
mi0108: Fold
jabi.dk: Fold
marine1: Call 2.00
legendash: Fold
mickey_dk: <font color="red"> Raise </font> 10.00
racnas: Fold
Sandro13: Call 10.00
rouner: Fold
Jean&lt;FRA: Fold
marine1: Call 10.00

Flop (Board: 10 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif):

Sandro13: Check
marine1: Check
mickey_dk: <font color="red"> Bet </font> 8.00
Sandro13: Call 8.00
marine1: Call 8.00

Turn (Board: 10 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif):

Sandro13: Check
marine1: Check
mickey_dk: Check

River (Board: 10 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif):

Sandro13: Check
marine1: Bet 16.00
mickey_dk: <font color="red"> Raise </font> 36.00
Sandro13: Fold
marine1: Call 36.00

Comments appreciated on all streets, wondering if i could drag more out of my opponents with this monster.

New to the site, hope its ok i post these "value" hands.

Mickey

[djoyce003]

You could have bet the turn, for at least 10 or $15

[Ghazban]

Bet more on the flop -- 1/4 pot is horrible. Bet whatever you'd bet with AK, here. After getting 2 callers on the flop, checking this turn behind is fine as it will make people more likely to look you up on the river. The flop is drawless other than a gutshot so its pretty likely your opponents are drawing dead and a free card cannot hurt you. Raising the river is clearly correct but the exact amount is opponent-specific.

[mickeynygaard]

Hi, my flop bet was actually to induce a raise from one of my opponents, to make it look like i had KK and didnt hit. What would be a more correct amount to bet here? 2/3 pot like i would with AK with no flush draw?

Mickey

[Ghazban]

I probably bet about 1/2 pot here. However, that's in line with other flop bets I'll normally make (depending on my holdings, board texture, and opponents, my flop bets are usually between 1/2 pot and full pot, with the majority being closer to full than half). The important thing is that you not bet an amount that tells people what you have. If you'd never bet that small with anything but top set, its really hard to get people to make mistakes against you as your betting tells people too much about your hand. If you'd bet 2/3 pot with AK, I think that would be a good amount for this hand, too.

[yvesaint]

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Hi, my flop bet was actually to induce a raise from one of my opponents, to make it look like i had KK and didnt hit. What would be a more correct amount to bet here? 2/3 pot like i would with AK with no flush draw?

Mickey

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Yes, bet whatever you do when you continuation bet - thats what continuation bets are for. It's really suspicious when you bet 2/3 pot after most raises, then suddenly bet something like 1/4 pot after you've raised big pre-flop.

Besides, getting more money in on the flop/turn means that you can put more in on the river without it seeming scary, because the pot's bigger.