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x2ski

08-31-2005, 01:31 AM

Original raiser (UTG+1) is a 48/28 after 76 hands, so his raise means nothing.

MP2 is a 60/8 after 70 hands, so I welcome him along.

It gets weird when SB caps, 'cause he is a 51/0 after 43 hands.

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Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 raises, Hero 3-bets, 1 fold, MP2 calls, 3 folds, SB caps, 1 fold, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, MP2 calls.

 Well we have the maniac out of the hand, so that is semi-cool.

Should I raise or just call SB's bet? I think I'll call and maybe pop a safe turn for a free showdown/easy fold to a 3-bet. 

Flop: (15 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players)
SB checks WTF??? , Hero bets I suppose he could have premium overs , MP2 calls, SB raises [censored] , Hero calls with the intention of folding a non-T turn (I might chase a club turn) , MP2 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB pauses for like 'ever and then bets, Hero folds, MP2 calls.

River: (12.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
SB bets, MP2 raises, SB calls.

Final Pot: 16.50 BB

BTW for those of you who read the My Dilemma (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=&Number=3195638&page=&view=&s b=5&o=&vc=1) post about my inopportune downswing at $5/$10, I moved back down to $3/$6 as many of you advised, bottomed out at -347BB half-way through the very day I moved down, and have been on a tear ever since.

I hate you guys sometimes /images/graemlins/wink.gif

bryan4967

08-31-2005, 01:36 AM

i don't dislike the fold at all..i put SB on QQ or AQs...how'd it turn out? incidentally not a huge fan of the 3 bet with the tens PF. but what do i know i'm still new to this forum. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

x2ski

08-31-2005, 01:39 AM

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incidentally not a huge fan of the 3 bet with the tens PF.

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Yeah, uh, start 3-betting there duder.

Welcome to the forums /images/graemlins/smile.gif

bryan4967

08-31-2005, 01:49 AM

yes, his dudeness felt like a donkey immediately after posting that, sorry /images/graemlins/smirk.gif so how did it turn out anyways?

x2ski

08-31-2005, 02:00 AM

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yes, his dudeness felt like a donkey immediately after posting that, sorry /images/graemlins/smirk.gif so how did it turn out anyways?

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I ain't tellin'. unless there's demand. Sorry, those are the rules.

I probably shouldn't have even posted any of the action after I folded /images/graemlins/blush.gif

bryan4967

08-31-2005, 02:04 AM

understood. /images/graemlins/spade.gif

bobbyi

08-31-2005, 02:09 AM

I think you played this fine.

bugstud

08-31-2005, 02:14 AM

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yes, his dudeness felt like a donkey immediately after posting that, sorry /images/graemlins/smirk.gif so how did it turn out anyways?

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I ain't tellin'. unless there's demand. Sorry, those are the rules.

I probably shouldn't have even posted any of the action after I folded /images/graemlins/blush.gif

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I just want the 0 PFR's hand for [censored] ands giggles

Argus

08-31-2005, 02:14 AM

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I think you played this fine.

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Agreed. This is the kind of play that will help you move back up to 5/10. Although I've seen players with similar starts raise for the first time ever with AK, he really isn't representing that.

sds4255

08-31-2005, 02:17 AM

what does this mean
is a 48/28 after 76 hands?

x2ski

08-31-2005, 02:24 AM

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what does this mean
is a 48/28 after 76 hands?

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The guy voluntarily puts money in the pot to see a flop 48% of the time.

When the guy voluntarily puts money in the pot to see a flop, he is raising or re-raisng before said flop 28% of the time.

These are the stats I have on this player after 76 hands played with him.

Hence 48/28 after 76 hands.

bugstud

08-31-2005, 02:36 AM

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what does this mean
is a 48/28 after 76 hands?

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The guy voluntarily puts money in the pot to see a flop 48% of the time.

When the guy voluntarily puts money in the pot to see a flop, he is raising or re-raisng before said flop 28% of the time.

These are the stats I have on this player after 76 hands played with him.

Hence 48/28 after 76 hands.

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you don't have that right. pfr is a function of total hands, not vpip

edit - maybe it's just confusingly worded. better if you say he voluntarily enters the pot 48%, voluntarily raises or reraises 28%

sds4255

08-31-2005, 02:36 AM

I am going to be real honest, I did not know that a player could aquire so much information on other players. My first question is how do you do that, and secondly do you feel it is benefical to you to know that much information? Please dont mistake my ingnorance as a joke, I have just started to play poker online. That is truly mind blowing to me.

x2ski

08-31-2005, 02:41 AM

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I am going to be real honest, I did not know that a player could aquire so much information on other players. My first question is how do you do that, and secondly do you feel it is benefical to you to know that much information? Please dont mistake my ingnorance as a joke, I have just started to play poker online. That is truly mind blowing to me.

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It's all up here <taps on noggin>

Also, PokerTracker (http://www.pokertracker.com) is a good place to start learning.

KDawgCometh

08-31-2005, 02:59 AM

nh, no way can you call it down at all. Hell, I'd fold HU there cause I can't see any way that we are ahead here, smells like aces or queens to me(queens cause of the pause on the turn)

ErrantNight

08-31-2005, 09:09 AM

why do you put him on QQ or AQ? because a queen fell?