Bankroll Bragging...

[ace_in_the_hole]

Don;t know if it is considered rude to ask someone what their bankroll is at, but I am curious. reply to this thread with the amount of $$ in your bankroll at the current time. Be honest /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am currently at $2300

[45suited]

i just cashed out.

i must suk at poker. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[Sponger15SB]

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i just cashed out.

i must suk at poker. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Ha, at least you didn't more than half your bankroll /images/graemlins/mad.gif

[Slim Pickens]

This thread would become slightly useful if people also posted what level(s) they play.

$2199
4-table 33's or 8-table 11's

[45suited]

I'm just sayin', I've got a job other than poker, so my B/R is whatever I want it to be, you know?

I mean, I've made some nice $ (for a middle class guy), but I've cashed out like 6 times in the last year, so what's my B/R? It doesn't really apply to some of us...

[Slim Pickens]

Yeah, some are like that. Some are like me. I'm obsessive about my bankroll. It's missing 5 cents, and I spent hours looking for it.

[Freudian]

Probably ~$9k in Neteller and poker sites atm. Have cashed out quite a bit lately since the dollar exchange rate has been great for swedes.

[citanul]

er...

about 40k

citanul

[1C5]

$4200 in Empire, $1800 in Eurobet, $600 in Party, $2200 in Neteller.

The rest of my winnings are in my bank account.

I 8 table the 22s currently.

[Mr_J]

$1800. Had $607 5 days ago.

One thing I will say is that 1300 sngs is not really a sample. Over the last 430 sngs my ROI has dropped 8%, and then clawed back 3-4%. Just shows the variance in what is apparently a decent sample, and how it doesn't really give me a good idea where my game is at. People are so results oriented on this forum.

[HighestCard]

Got it up to $1700 now 3 tabling the 11's at pokerroom over about 500 SnG's

Ima big wuss cause I'm scared to move to the 22's. (The 79 ive 3 tabled show a 6 cent an hr profit, total profit of a whopping 2 dollars) I guess im over bankrolled for the 11's so here I come 22's

[wulfheir]

$370

4-tabling the $11s

[Phill S]

Somewhere between 60 and 100 cents.

Phill

[Daliman]

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This thread would become slightly useful if people also posted what level(s) they play.

$2199
4-table 33's or 8-table 11's

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$2199?

Bah. I 4 table 215's with that. Nary a problem......... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

More short-rolled than normal right now, about 4800 between 2 accounts, 8x 215.

[Bill Poker]

the past weekends were great, I was up 2k with >100% ROI by playing $20+2/$55+5./images/graemlins/smirk.gif

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$1800. Had $607 5 days ago.


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[1C5]

hahaha, that is great, I have more money for the 22s than you do for the 215s.

I hide my bankroll from myself, so I dunno. I currently have $200 on the sites I'm playing, but probably about $1k online.

[Mr_J]

I'm still happy with my results this week. Back into it, been slow with just 130 sngs, but profits are nearly enough for me to move to the $55s which is all I want (and then to make a few more K and move to the $109s lol). Been a long time since I've had one of those 40%+ over 100-200. They feel good.

[vinyard]

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er...

about 40k

citanul

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And you are 8 tabling the 55s? For the love of Peter think about your ROR? Proper BR management is a must for a poker player. You shouldn't be moderating this forum as you are too reckless. I am PMing Mat Sklansky and getting this fixed.

[sng-sam]

$1200 on party $500 on neteller
4 table the $22s

SAM

[Daliman]

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hahaha, that is great, I have more money for the 22s than you do for the 215s.

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And likely a higher risk of ruin, too. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[kevstreet]

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$4200 in Empire, $1800 in Eurobet, $600 in Party, $2200 in Neteller.

The rest of my winnings are in my bank account.

I 8 table the 22s currently.

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IC5, do you share your screen name? Just wondering, I'm sure we've played at the same table several times.

[1C5]

My fav post:

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1497599&page=4&view=colla psed&sb=9&o=all&fpart=1#1497599

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[citanul]

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er...

about 40k

citanul

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And you are 8 tabling the 55s? For the love of Peter think about your ROR? Proper BR management is a must for a poker player. You shouldn't be moderating this forum as you are too reckless. I am PMing Mat Sklansky and getting this fixed.

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hey, that's not very nice, i haven't been 8 tabling for a while.

mostly i've been 4 tabling the 55s /images/graemlins/smile.gif

citanul

edit: see, i am cautious enough to be moderator.

[Hornacek]

I'd guess around $1400 on Empire on one acct (the one with rakeback), $200 on other (my proxy I use to cashout), and $200 on Pokerstars.

Although, like a previous poster, I have a 9-5er, so I keep my online bankroll managed by cashing out regularly. I tend to cash out $1000 whenever I hit $1600. A minimum of $600 in my account is good enough for me to 4-table $33s.

[citanul]

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A minimum of $600 in my account is good enough for me to 4-table $33s.

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you run goot.

citanul

[1C5]

Yeah, I wouldn't want to multitable the play money games with only $600 in my account.

[pokerlaw]

I never have/had a "bankroll" in the sense that all my poker $$ came from one source that was incapable of being replenished, instead I deposit money and withdraw profit when I have expenses. While this relegates me to the lower levels, it works for me and my financial situation (i.e., if i weren't a poor grad student, that wouldnt be the case).

My latest deposit was $55 that I put in the day after the bar (July 28). The other day I took out $800 to buy this semester's books and to cover a few misc expenses and am left with my current $100. I 4 table the $10+1 and $5+.50 1, 2 and 3 table tourneys.

[Hornacek]

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Yeah, I wouldn't want to multitable the play money games with only $600 in my account.

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Personally, I feel like if I have less money, it tightens my game up, not to a level where I am playing unoptimally, but it prevents me from playing too loosely.

And plus, with $1000 cashouts, its easier to have periodical checkpoints for profits. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Daliman]

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My fav post:

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1497599&page=4&view=colla psed&sb=9&o=all&fpart=1#1497599

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That took a whole 3 minutes, and you couldn't even condense the link.

VERY disappointing. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

Cum on, everyone knows you cant multitable playmoney.

[Hornacek]

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Cum on, everyone knows you cant multitable playmoney.

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Who are you talking to?

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Personally, I feel like if I have less money, it tightens my game up, not to a level where I am playing unoptimally, but it prevents me from playing too loosely.


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I do the same thing at significantly lower stakes.

If the first question wasn't rude, this one may be, but I'm just kinda curious what kind of incomes people who do this (semi-)professionally are making at different stakes.

[1C5]

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My fav post:

http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1497599&page=4&view=colla psed&sb=9&o=all&fpart=1#1497599

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That took a whole 3 minutes, and you couldn't even condense the link.

VERY disappointing. /images/graemlins/mad.gif

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I don't know how. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

[citanul]

below the posting box, there is UBB code box, click the thing that says "URL"

it's pretty self explanitory after that.

citanul

[pooh74]

I think a good system to use which I am only just starting to implement is this:

Keep X BR for your level (i typically like to have 70-80 BIs at whatever level I play). Then cashout above x BR but only 75% of profits and then whatever you cashout to, x+1, or whatever, make that your new baseline and the next cashout will be 75% from the previous cashout point. This will in turn allow BR growth while letting you pay expenses.

I have a 9-5er and play maybe 15 hours a week tops. (3-4 tabling). I had previously cashed out evrything above my BI comfort zone. (and spent it /images/graemlins/frown.gif )

[wulfheir]

click URL under 'Instant UBB Code', paste the http:// link into the first dialog box. Enter the text you wish to appear as the link in the second dialog box.

[1C5]

Testing testing 123 (http://archiveserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Number=1497599&page=4&view=colla psed&sb=9&o=all&fpart=1#1497599)

Thanks! /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[raptor517]

like 12 dollars. im cashing it out for vegas though. i fully intend to double it up 17 times in a row cuz im due. that would mean i would have over 1.5 mil in my bankroll. so lets just say thats what my bankroll is. holla holla

[Hornacek]

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like 12 dollars. im cashing it out for vegas though. i fully intend to double it up 17 times in a row cuz im due. that would mean i would have over 1.5 mil in my bankroll. so lets just say thats what my bankroll is. holla holla

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put it on RED! GOGOGOGOGO

[Ixnert]

$2900 over a couple of Party skins (most of it at Empire for rakeback, a bit at Party to feed my large-field MTT addiction). But I cash out half of my profits at the end of each month (keeps the bankroll growing and keeps the wife happy), so that's about to fall back to the low $2000's.

4-tabling the 22s, though I'll either be stepping up to 6 or 8 tabling or moving back up to the 33s sometime soon.

[downtown]

I have $1,000,000 in rape dollars.


But seriously, I am in a bankroll rebuilding phase, almost rebuilt now, hurrah hurrah. I spent my BR on some things non-poker, then I took $50 back to the tables in June and it's $1700 and change now. That number is really meaningless though, as I could probably reload for that amount if something went awry. (Wife is a Dr., hooray) There is satisfaction in building up from scratch though, no? I was 4x33s, but now I'm 8x22s until I get the hang of this 8-tabling nonsense, then back to 33s. Interesting? Meh. You be the judge.

[ZeroPointMachine]

June 30th - $14.47

August 30th - $3457.00 on Party + $3700 in bills/toys

4 tabling the 20's until I grow a pair and crushing the pot limit omaha8 MTTs.

[Isura]

6k.

[barndor]

Started with $150. Progressively moved up from 2 tabling $6 tables to currently 3 tabling the $22 with a bankroll of $2200. I have occassionally jumped on a $33 table. I would like to get comfortable 4 tabling the $22s before moving up further.

[jeramy576]

I have 6.20 but i'm going to add-on at the end of the first round of this 5+1 R+A on PP.I'll post the results.Right now have 5035 in chips blinds at 10/20

[UMTerp]

9-5er here too. I have my own little system. I always cash in for $400, try to build it up to $10K, cash out every cent of it, then take a poker break for a few weeks to keep me sane, and more imprtantly, to keep the girlfriend happy. I start out at the $27 Turbos on Stars, and just reload if I bust. Once I get to $2K, I'll switch to $60 Turbos and mix in $5/$10 limit games. At $5K, I'll do my sets in a third $60s, a third $114s, and a third $225s. I'll mix in $10/$20, $15/$30 or $30/$60 limit (if I'm feeling really frisky) once I hit the $5K mark too.

It'll typically take me about 3 or 4 weeks to run thru the $400 to $10K cycle. Sometimes longer than others of course. So far this year, I think I've bought in like 15 times and cashed out 7.

I started with a fresh $400 on on Sunday, and I'm at $1800 right now.

[-Skeme-]

Cashed out $700 a few weeks ago, $1300 a bit before that, and other random cashouts.. that currently leaves me at $1,041.22.

Currently 3-tabling $16 Stars Turbos.

[samr]

$1589 right now on Empire. Still 4-tabling the $11s, though.

[Seth Money]

More then a little. And less then a lot.


That's how it will be for life.

[Slim Pickens]

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I never have/had a "bankroll" in the sense that all my poker $$ came from one source that was incapable of being replenished, instead I deposit money and withdraw profit when I have expenses. While this relegates me to the lower levels, it works for me and my financial situation (i.e., if i weren't a poor grad student, that wouldnt be the case).

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I'm a poor grad student, and that's exactly why I am so obsessive about bankroll. My unreplenishable source was a $500 moment of stupidty at Party. If I hadn't needed to get the money back I never would have learned this stupid game. It's a good thing I learned to play before I learned anything about how large downswings can be. Well, that and after I went on a huge tear. [Censored], Party is rigged.

[Hornacek]

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I never have/had a "bankroll" in the sense that all my poker $$ came from one source that was incapable of being replenished, instead I deposit money and withdraw profit when I have expenses. While this relegates me to the lower levels, it works for me and my financial situation (i.e., if i weren't a poor grad student, that wouldnt be the case).

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I'm a poor grad student, and that's exactly why I am so obsessive about bankroll. My unreplenishable source was a $500 moment of stupidty at Party. If I hadn't needed to get the money back I never would have learned this stupid game. It's a good thing I learned to play before I learned anything about how large downswings can be. Well, that and after I went on a huge tear. [Censored], Party is rigged.

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I was a grad student until this past summer. RA stipend, anyone? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Bluff Daddy]

if you win so much at the higher levels why do you ever go back down?

[Slim Pickens]

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I never have/had a "bankroll" in the sense that all my poker $$ came from one source that was incapable of being replenished, instead I deposit money and withdraw profit when I have expenses. While this relegates me to the lower levels, it works for me and my financial situation (i.e., if i weren't a poor grad student, that wouldnt be the case).

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I'm a poor grad student, and that's exactly why I am so obsessive about bankroll. My unreplenishable source was a $500 moment of stupidty at Party. If I hadn't needed to get the money back I never would have learned this stupid game. It's a good thing I learned to play before I learned anything about how large downswings can be. Well, that and after I went on a huge tear. [Censored], Party is rigged.

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I was a grad student until this past summer. RA stipend, anyone? /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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My RA stipend doesn't leave me in abject poverty, but it is about 35% of my market value. /images/graemlins/mad.gif Poker has bailed me out of a few situations where my department forgot to pay me, and of course it took a month to fix.

[Slim Pickens]

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This thread would become slightly useful if people also posted what level(s) they play.

$2199
4-table 33's or 8-table 11's

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$2199?

Bah. I 4 table 215's with that. Nary a problem......... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

More short-rolled than normal right now, about 4800 between 2 accounts, 8x 215.

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This is a highly-transparent attempt to get me to four-table the 215's on my $2199 bankroll. /images/graemlins/shocked.gif I won't be fooled that easily! I am too smrt for that!

[MegaBet]

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hahaha, that is great, I have more money for the 22s than you do for the 215s.

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Maybe consider cashing out or moving up? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[Slim Pickens]

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If the first question wasn't rude, this one may be, but I'm just kinda curious what kind of incomes people who do this (semi-)professionally are making at different stakes.

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11's: $4.37/hr
22's: $6.31/hr
33's: $24.10/hr
55's: $53.13/hr (I wish this one were real. Alas, N=6)

Overall: N=1270, $9.07/hr
Low stakes pride!

[cha59]

$2250

[Bluff Daddy]

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If the first question wasn't rude, this one may be, but I'm just kinda curious what kind of incomes people who do this (semi-)professionally are making at different stakes.

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11's: $4.37/hr
22's: $6.31/hr
33's: $24.10/hr
55's: $53.13/hr (I wish this one were real. Alas, N=6)

Overall: N=1270, $9.07/hr
Low stakes pride!

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shouldnt you be looking at $/tournery, unless you one table continuously

[J-Lo]

i have ~8k... just rebuilt at the $22's after a 2500 downswing at the $55's 8 tabling

i'm tryin to learn how to 4 table the $55's again.

8 tablin' the $22's = 35/hr
8 tablin' the $33's = 25/hr
8 tablin' the $55's = -$5/hr N= 500
4 tablin' the 455's= 100/hr N= 400 (most of it was a $3800 upswing in 3 days and 40 tourneys)
1 tablin' the $215's= -215/hr N=1 on accident

[1C5]

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hahaha, that is great, I have more money for the 22s than you do for the 215s.

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Maybe consider cashing out or moving up? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Both good options. Trying the 33s soon. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[AliasMrJones]

$5,300 and I 4-table the $55's.

[Slim Pickens]

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11's: $4.37/hr
22's: $6.31/hr
33's: $24.10/hr
55's: $53.13/hr (I wish this one were real. Alas, N=6)

Overall: N=1270, $9.07/hr
Low stakes pride!

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shouldnt you be looking at $/tournery, unless you one table continuously

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Well, if you want to get picky, those data are from all sorts of different conditions. The 11's are anywhere from 1 to 8 tables. The 22's and 33's are almost all 4-tabling. I also improved a lot (I hope) in that span. Overall, I actually think $/hr is the best metric for evaluating a player whose primary goal is to make money. ROI is best for comparing skill across buy-in levels. $/tourn forces you to assume a constant buy-in, so ROI tells you everything $/tourn will tell you and more.

[Ogre]

~30k+ 8 tabling the 100s

[MegaBet]

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hahaha, that is great, I have more money for the 22s than you do for the 215s.

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Maybe consider cashing out or moving up? /images/graemlins/confused.gif

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Both good options. Trying the 33s soon. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Good luck! Hope to see you at the $55s soon.

[KramerTM]

Around 2.5K

Currently taking a break from SnGs to try my hand at 6max limit and some MTTs, but most recently I was 4-tabling the 33s with high hopes for moving up to the 55s.

[iMsoLucky0]

~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

[bluefeet]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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That's my boy!!

Ps. A top-notch stripper will be waiting for you in the Palace Station lobby for your full-body meeee-ssage -- in prep for our (er...your) HUC.

[bugstud]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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not bad

[iMsoLucky0]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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That's my boy!!

Ps. A top-notch stripper will be waiting for you in the Palace Station lobby for your full-body meeee-ssage -- in prep for our (er...your) HUC.

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I like it.

For now on, we will call it the iMsoLucky0 Headsup Championship Invitational.

[raptor517]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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That's my boy!!

Ps. A top-notch stripper will be waiting for you in the Palace Station lobby for your full-body meeee-ssage -- in prep for our (er...your) HUC.

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I like it.

For now on, we will call it the iMsoLucky0 Headsup Championship Invitational.

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luckbox. holla

[adanthar]

30K but that's about to take a hit depending on how much I'm gonna need to live on.

[Roland32]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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You SIR, disgust me

[ChuckNorris]

It's now about 5k with ~1k in rakeback coming soon. I usually cash out down to 3k whenever I'm at around 5-6k. I make ~50 bucks/hr (including rakeback) 4-tabling the $50+5's. My sample is only about 1100 tournies, though.

Around 50k, just took out 8k to pay for private school for my brother

[wiggs73]

~1k total between 3 sites. Back to playing SNGs after messing with some other games, so hopefully that figure grows.

[Jason Strasser]

I've made 10M using raptors genius blackjack techniques.

[SlackerMcFly]

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I've <font color="red">lost </font> 10M using raptors genius blackjack techniques.


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FYP

[raptor517]

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I've made 10M using raptors genius blackjack techniques.

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i hate you all. with a venemous intensity. /images/graemlins/wink.gif live and learn jason.. live and learn. holla

[Degen]

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Don;t know if it is considered rude to ask someone what their bankroll is at, but I am curious. reply to this thread with the amount of $$ in your bankroll at the current time. Be honest /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I am currently at $2300

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13k

[Degen]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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dude, do u like letting online poker sites make money off of your money?

read Rich Dad Poor Dad


---sweet azz poker roll, but for fucsake, put a large chunk of that in a CD, mutual fund, stocks or at least an interest bearing savings account...i highly doubt you are putting more than 10% of that to use on a regular basis

ING Direct's 'Orange' gives over 3% right now (online savings account)

[Mr_J]

"i have ~8k... just rebuilt at the $22's after a 2500 downswing at the $55's 8 tabling"

Lol are you sure you have enough yet??

[iMsoLucky0]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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dude, do u like letting online poker sites make money off of your money?

read Rich Dad Poor Dad


---sweet azz poker roll, but for fucsake, put a large chunk of that in a CD, mutual fund, stocks or at least an interest bearing savings account...i highly doubt you are putting more than 10% of that to use on a regular basis

ING Direct's 'Orange' gives over 3% right now (online savings account)

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Rich Dad Poor Dad was actually delivered to my house yesterday /images/graemlins/smile.gif. I actually had a meeting with an accountant today to see what would be best to do with my money. I am in the process of cashing out a large % of this.

Thanks for your concern /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Degen]

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Rich Dad Poor Dad was actually delivered to my house yesterday /images/graemlins/smile.gif.



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Awesome, read it...twice.


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Thanks for your concern /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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np, gl man

[curtains]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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I have about 120k now too. I would have never posted it but since you did I can't help myself...I havent played in one month though, and won't play again till I move in another month or so, so youll have me beat by then I suspect.

[iMsoLucky0]

Nah, like I said in my previous post, I'm getting ready to pull out a large amount of that money. I'm sure you'll beat me just staying stagnant /images/graemlins/smile.gif

[Apathy]

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~$120,000 online right now in about 6 different sites. When I play SNGs, I 8-table the 215s, however I have recently moved more towards MTTs.

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i highly doubt you are putting more than 10% of that to use on a regular basis



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Clearly you have never seen him play 150.300 triple draw lowball /images/graemlins/blush.gif

[HesseJam]

9/5er playing between 20-60 hours monthly

$ 5400 3-tabling 22s. My overall ROI is 9% for N = 350. I am not sure that I can beat the game but I am sure I can improve game play a lot, so I won't move up.

I am also 4-tabling the 1/2 and 2/4 games at Party and Crypto skins for bonii. YTD income from Poker = $ 214 /images/graemlins/blush.gif, YTD income from bonii + RB = $4230 /images/graemlins/laugh.gif YTD income from casino whoring (slots only)over a 7 day span = $2500 /images/graemlins/cool.gif, YTD income from falling back into a bad habit on a one time visit to local casino going on a slot binge = $3000 /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

[eastbay]

$8k, $109. I cash $3k when I reach $10k.

You guys keeping more than that in there are nuts IMO. One little hacker and whoosh... no recourse.

eastbay

[stupidsucker]

I have $1086 to my name now (rent/bills is paid through Sept).
I made $500 this week so imagine the trouble I was in...

I am rebuilding 8tabling the 11s. $700 of that $1086 will be untouched so it can be used for Sept rent/bills.

so I have a working $386 BR for the 11s, 2 months rent/bills paid.

If anyone else did this I would call them stupid.
<font color="white"> jmfcagdm! I am stupid </font>

[Amything]

2,3K. 4 tabling $11 as well as 4 tabling 1/2 limit 6max. I'm a pussy. But this pussy is gonna cash out for 2x20" Dells.

[chisness]

eastbay,

i really like that plan and it's exactly what i use (though cut in half to keep a $55 roll online). luckily haven't had to yet, but i'd plan on symmetrically adding the (in your case) $3k if it gets down to $4k for safety.

a friend did have a slightly over $1k roll stolen off of stars by people from north carolina (we still don't know how they got his info, but they lost it to each other purposely) -- not only is it safer elsewhere but it can also be earning at LEAST 3% and much higher in certain things

i highly recommend investing at least 10% of profits in something -- up until recently i've made the mistake of assuming all profits should be spent on luxuries, but while most of us are young it's a GREAT time to start putting money away and letting it grow

[raptor517]

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i highly recommend investing at least 10% of profits in something -- up until recently i've made the mistake of assuming all profits should be spent on luxuries, but while most of us are young it's a GREAT time to start putting money away and letting it grow

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people should really really really listen to this advice. holla

[1C5]

I will be starting to do that. From now on 50% of each month's profits stay in the BR, 25% go to taxes, etc and 25% gets invested.

[Karak567]

6 k - 8 table the 33s

[z32fanatic]

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eastbay,

i really like that plan and it's exactly what i use (though cut in half to keep a $55 roll online). luckily haven't had to yet, but i'd plan on symmetrically adding the (in your case) $3k if it gets down to $4k for safety.

a friend did have a slightly over $1k roll stolen off of stars by people from north carolina (we still don't know how they got his info, but they lost it to each other purposely) -- not only is it safer elsewhere but it can also be earning at LEAST 3% and much higher in certain things

i highly recommend investing at least 10% of profits in something -- up until recently i've made the mistake of assuming all profits should be spent on luxuries, but while most of us are young it's a GREAT time to start putting money away and letting it grow

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Very true. My bankroll is technically ~40k but i've put 25 of it in an Ameritrade account to invest. Keeping any more money than you need online is bad for your longterm bankroll. At least put it in an ING savings account instead of keeping like $30k in Neteller to play the 55s like some people do. I have about 12k online to 8-table the 100s.

[Gramps]

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dude, do u like letting online poker sites make money off of your money?

read Rich Dad Poor Dad


---sweet azz poker roll, but for fucsake, put a large chunk of that in a CD, mutual fund, stocks or at least an interest bearing savings account...i highly doubt you are putting more than 10% of that to use on a regular basis

ING Direct's 'Orange' gives over 3% right now (online savings account)


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Rich Dad Poor Dad was actually delivered to my house yesterday . I actually had a meeting with an accountant today to see what would be best to do with my money. I am in the process of cashing out a large % of this.

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ING Direct - 3.15% interest plus fully (mostly) liquid. I don't even have my ING account linked to Neteller, but ING &gt; checking &gt; Neteller &gt; poker site would only take about a week (if the shat hit the fan).

BTW, The Millionare Next Door is a great one to pick up on CD for money management/what level of lifestyle to live, etc.

[Seth Money]

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BTW, The Millionare Next Door is a great one to pick up on CD for money management/what level of lifestyle to live, etc.

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I would also look at Automatic Millionaire by David Bach. I have the book and the cd's on the computer if anyone is interested PM Me.

"Pay yourself first" thats the golden rule

[gisb0rne]

All I got out of Rich Dad Poor Dad was that the SoB got ridiculously lucky in real estate then took some common sense and peddled a book out of it.

I have about $1300 in eurobet and $650 in Firepay (for Pokerstars reload). I have more money in my bank to back that up if needed. I 4-table the $55's while watching TV though if I don't achieve a satisfactory $/hour rate I will go back to the $25+2 turbo's at PStars (maybe 8-tabling if I can handle the boredom).

[chisness]

his stories definitely did seem very fortunate

but the point that saving money and taking good opportunities that come up is important

[curtains]

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$8k, $109. I cash $3k when I reach $10k.

You guys keeping more than that in there are nuts IMO. One little hacker and whoosh... no recourse.

eastbay

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Can a hacker really do that if you have your money spread out over about 20-40 sites? Also I don't leave it all online, I have a running number which is my poker bankroll. This doesn't mean it's online.

[Degen]

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i highly recommend investing at least 10% of profits in something -- up until recently i've made the mistake of assuming all profits should be spent on luxuries, but while most of us are young it's a GREAT time to start putting money away and letting it grow

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people should really really really listen to this advice. holla

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what raptor said


my personal approach is to leave enough money in my bank account for expenses and a little 'padding' should i want to have a little fun...but not too much padding so i'm not tempted to spend a grip on some dumb toy etc.

i then leave what i consider a suitable working roll in my poker accounts and whenver this gets over what is necessary, or when funds in the bank get a bit low...i transfer the difference to the bank, and then directly to ameritrade

all of my ameritrade deposits are very odd numbers cuz i add it up like this:

(numbers are only examples)

Total in poker accounts: $3125 (of a needed $2000)
Total in bank: $1925 (of a needed $2000)


i square it up and transfer all the leftovers to ameritrade...so in the example above its $1050


What this does is prevent me from viewing myself as having just made a bunch of money, and increasing my spending...its also a great way to save a whole bunch of money when i'm on a rush.

hope that helps somebody

[stillbr]

somthing around 6k, learning sngs at the $22 level, 4 tabling. 26% roi over my first 200! thinking about investments, making A's in scholl, and #19th ranked flagfootball team in the nation...Holla!

[stillbr]

oh yeah...and two top notch fantasy football teams. Perfect drafts for me baby!

[Bluff Daddy]

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somthing around 6k, learning sngs at the $22 level, 4 tabling. 26% roi over my first 200! thinking about investments, making A's in scholl, and #19th ranked flagfootball team in the nation...Holla!

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they have flag football rankings? lmao

[FieryJustice]

fwiw, I keep a ton online compared to my bank account. Right now, I got 60kish online and only 10k in my bank account. I think it might bt time to start some investing.

[Degen]

somebody is making money off of that money, might as well be you

[eastbay]

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$8k, $109. I cash $3k when I reach $10k.

You guys keeping more than that in there are nuts IMO. One little hacker and whoosh... no recourse.

eastbay

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Can a hacker really do that if you have your money spread out over about 20-40 sites? Also I don't leave it all online, I have a running number which is my poker bankroll. This doesn't mean it's online.

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IMO, if it's online, yes they can. If they get access to your machine, all bets are off, so to speak. Keylogging will give them access to anything you access.

eastbay

[newhizzle]

was at about 8 gs, but been playing above my roll and running bad today, so now its about 4 gs

[J-Lo]

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$8k, $109. I cash $3k when I reach $10k.

You guys keeping more than that in there are nuts IMO. One little hacker and whoosh... no recourse.

eastbay

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Can a hacker really do that if you have your money spread out over about 20-40 sites? Also I don't leave it all online, I have a running number which is my poker bankroll. This doesn't mean it's online.

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IMO, if it's online, yes they can. If they get access to your machine, all bets are off, so to speak. Keylogging will give them access to anything you access.

eastbay

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so where is the money safe? i access my bank account from online... should i cash out everythign and stuff it between my matress-- i've always wanted to sleep atop a pile of money

[stillbr]

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was at about 8 gs, but been playing above my roll and running bad today, so now its about 4 gs

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geeze that is wayyyy above your roll...if you can lose 1/2 your bankroll in one day, that is a surefire way to go broke

[microbet]

You don't have to bank online.

You should definitely have firewall/virus/adware/spyware, keep them current, and not do anything that invites trouble. Just a few years ago a lot of people talked like all of this was necessary, but just not doing anything stupid and you were pretty safe. Now it's pretty dangerous to connect to the internet.

[eastbay]

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so where is the money safe? i access my bank account from online... should i cash out everythign and stuff it between my matress-- i've always wanted to sleep atop a pile of money

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What's important is what can be done with the money. Most online banking services don't have an easy way for someone to ship your money off to an unknown location. You can move money around within the account, and "pay bills", but this doesn't make it trivial for a thief to empty your accounts into somewhere he can snag the money.

Once you're connected to neteller or some service like that, however, the picture changes, because if a thief can get the money into neteller, it's as good as gone, as far as I can tell. I've heard many credible stories of neteller accounts being emptied, with no compensation.

So it really depends on how you have your accounts set up.

A lone online banking account is, as far as I can tell, less dangerous than an online account that is connected to services like neteller, from which the money can be shipped into the ether relatively easily.

eastbay

[ilikeaces]

75k 6 table the 215s and play lot of mtts

[BakyPT]

1 Setembro 2005


Pacific - 536$ x

Paradise Poker - 5022$ x

PartyPoker - 4984$ x

PokerRoom - 6198$ x

PokerStars - 4323$ x

TruePoker - 232$ x

UltimateBet - 4261$ x

Eurobet - 8364$ x

EmpirePoker - 1376$ x

Intertops - 1505$ x

ABSOLUTE POKER - 939$ x

Bodog - 3379$ x

PokerNow - 2666$ x

TigerGaming - 2083$ x

Neteller - 4923$ x

50791$

Play all kind of stuff.

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11's: $4.37/hr
22's: $6.31/hr
33's: $24.10/hr
55's: $53.13/hr (I wish this one were real. Alas, N=6)

Overall: N=1270, $9.07/hr
Low stakes pride!

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shouldnt you be looking at $/tournery, unless you one table continuously

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Well, if you want to get picky, those data are from all sorts of different conditions. The 11's are anywhere from 1 to 8 tables. The 22's and 33's are almost all 4-tabling. I also improved a lot (I hope) in that span. Overall, I actually think $/hr is the best metric for evaluating a player whose primary goal is to make money. ROI is best for comparing skill across buy-in levels. $/tourn forces you to assume a constant buy-in, so ROI tells you everything $/tourn will tell you and more.

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While I do agree that $/hour is the best metric for evaluating a serious player's success rate, it is not acurate unless you 1-table, which is not smart to do if you are a serious player.

Because of this, I have to ask... How would one figure out his true $/hr? Note that your true $/hr may never be known, so let's use the following data.

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player 4 tables $20 games on party in SETS.
$/hr (taken from PokerTracker): $8
Average game time: 40 minutes

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Now since this player plays in SETS, how would one determine this players $/hr using the given data? Anyone that knows some algebra should be able to figure this out (and since a programmer I should), but I am wayy too tired for this right now.

Oh and by the way, do you prefer playing in SETs or CONTINUOUS, and what are your pros and cons for each?

Thanks,
Cheers

[Slim Pickens]

Your money is very safe with your bank. Neteller doesn't really care if they have your money as long as you move money through them. It's all about how they use your money to make money I guess.

me: "I'm a dumbass. I left my ATM card in the machine after making a deposit [while raging drunk] and and now $200 is missing from my account and I can't find my ATM card."
WF support: "There was a $200 withdrawl 5 minutes after you made that deposit. Here's a free $200 and don't do it again, dumbass."

I doubt Neteller would do something like that for someone who had mysteriously lost a sum of money.

[curtains]

waht are the best security programs available today? I have some that Im told are very good, but I may as well have the best....any ideas?

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Poker sites don't get to invest your money, do they? I can't see how this is legal. They aren't a bank, and your $$ isn't backed by FDIC.

But yes, he can take some of that and turn it into passive income if he chooses.

[ChuckyB]

I'm up $1000 since I really started playing in January. Mostly in weekly $5 buy-in tourneys, bi-monthly cash games and $6 SnGs.

My bankroll right now is $450 (bought computer, poker books, etc)

[Supersetoy]

My BR is currently sitting at $10K.

I bonus whore (party the most) 4 tabling the $5/10 6 max.

When I get bored I play $33 - $215 SnG and MTT.

For larger MTT, I like to play live ($400+ buyins).

Most of that BR is going towards the downpayment on a house in December though. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif

[pokerlaw]

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dude, do u like letting online poker sites make money off of your money?


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Poker sites don't get to invest your money, do they? I can't see how this is legal. They aren't a bank, and your $$ isn't backed by FDIC.

But yes, he can take some of that and turn it into passive income if he chooses.

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are you kidding???? of course poker sites invest all the $$ they have. in general terms, it is called float, even if they are only getting a portion of the 1-day LIBOR, that still amounts to a BOATLOAD of $$ for them.

why do you think it takes a few days before your cashout hits your bank account??

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Poker sites don't get to invest your money, do they? I can't see how this is legal. They aren't a bank, and your $$ isn't backed by FDIC.

But yes, he can take some of that and turn it into passive income if he chooses.

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are you kidding???? of course poker sites invest all the $$ they have. in general terms, it is called float, even if they are only getting a portion of the 1-day LIBOR, that still amounts to a BOATLOAD of $$ for them.

why do you think it takes a few days before your cashout hits your bank account??

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That doesn't seem right at all. We should see some of those profits, as the "investors".

Or is that what "Rakeback" is supposed to symbolize??? I'm surprised to learn this, honestly.

How is this legal?

Just broke $1k for the first time since starting seriously a couple of months ago. Generally two table the $11s.

[valejo]

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dude, do u like letting online poker sites make money off of your money?


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Poker sites don't get to invest your money, do they? I can't see how this is legal. They aren't a bank, and your $$ isn't backed by FDIC.

But yes, he can take some of that and turn it into passive income if he chooses.

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are you kidding???? of course poker sites invest all the $$ they have. in general terms, it is called float, even if they are only getting a portion of the 1-day LIBOR, that still amounts to a BOATLOAD of $$ for them.

why do you think it takes a few days before your cashout hits your bank account??

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That doesn't seem right at all. We should see some of those profits, as the "investors".

Or is that what "Rakeback" is supposed to symbolize??? I'm surprised to learn this, honestly.

How is this legal?

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Disclaimer: All of this below is an educated guess.

That said, any business--even off shore poker sites--is going to hold any cash they have in some kind of security. It just doesn't make sense to hold large amounts of cash on hand when it could be working for you.

But you're looney if you think the reason it takes several days for Party to wire you cashouts is because they have your money invested. First, the reason is because it usually takes about two business days for banks to process and post electronic fund transfers. There's a lot of banking security, federal regulation, and a bizarre mesh of old and new banking networks contributing. In fact, we just changed the way paper checks move around (http://www.federalreserve.gov/paymentsystems/truncation/default.htm) in the US fairly recently, underscoring the way in which the banking industry has a foot in the past.

But second, you really misunderstand the way PartyPoker does their accounting. When you deposit money, they don't put all that money into your own special cubby. They accept your transfer, record the amount you bought in for, and then put your money into the same bank account as every other deposit. Although they hold some percentage of the total dollars in play, they (probably) put most of those funds in some kind of security.

This is obviously legal. Banks, a highly regulated industry, do exactly this (that's what the Federal Reserve rate is all about). If poker sites were domestic and regulated, then there might be a law requiring them to hold all of the current buy-ins in cash.

[valejo]

Oh, and one more thing. It is +EV for me that PartyPoker makes some money by investing all their cash. That means they have to charge less vig to remain profitable!

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This is obviously legal. Banks, a highly regulated industry, do exactly this (that's what the Federal Reserve rate is all about). If poker sites were domestic and regulated, then there might be a law requiring them to hold all of the current buy-ins in cash.

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Yes, but when you deposit to a bank you have FDIC to insure you up to like $100K. Poker sites don't. How can they get away with investing YOUR money without you charging them vig?

In other words, if party is "Down" this month with their off-site investments, and every member cashes out fully, Party wouldn't have sufficient funds to pay everyone!?!? Isn't this what happened with Banks in the '30's (before FDIC)?

[chisness]

they're also making a profit every day and they can invest at lower rates with no risk