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aK13
08-30-2005, 03:16 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB ($41.75)
BB ($37)
UTG ($105.80)
UTG+1 ($48)
Hero ($47)
MP1 ($23.59)
MP2 ($46.50)
MP3 ($23.95)
CO ($25.17)
Button ($215.70)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.25.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP3 calls $0.50, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls $0.50, SB (poster) completes, BB checks.

Flop: ($3) 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets $3</font>, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $3, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $10</font>, MP3 folds, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $20</font>, Hero calls $36.50 (All-In)

AllIn3High
08-30-2005, 03:17 AM
Yeah assuming UTG+1 is your standard loose monkey.

I'm not really a fan of playing QTs in EP tho.

LethalRose
08-30-2005, 03:31 AM
Whys your name purple?

i want a purple name dammit.

aK13
08-30-2005, 03:33 AM
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Whys your name purple?

i want a purple name dammit.

[/ QUOTE ]

It's pink =). because I like attention...

Go_Blue88
08-30-2005, 03:45 AM
without a good read i don't like your push at all. what did you put UTG+1 on that he'd limp with? 910,J10,K10,A10 are reasonable, but would he play 910 or J10 this strongly?

XXXNoahXXX
08-30-2005, 03:49 AM
I tin he plays any T this strongly, so the way this way played comes down to a matter of do you feel lucky?well do ya? punk? you payed it how it must be played, cant concern yourself with being outkicked in this case.

Go_Blue88
08-30-2005, 03:53 AM
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I tin he plays any T this strongly, so the way this way played comes down to a matter of do you feel lucky?well do ya? punk? you payed it how it must be played, cant concern yourself with being outkicked in this case.

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why do you think this with no read provided on his opponent? why shouldn't he worry about his kicker???

ryanghall
08-30-2005, 04:02 AM
Fold preflop.

Do you have a read on this opponent? You would need a read to properly decide whether to call or fold this hand on the end. If he's really tight preflop, you can probably get all-in because he isn't likely to have a T, although 44 is still a concern. If he's of average tightness/looseness, I'd be real worried about AT, KT. This is where I'd be most likely to fold.

If he's very loose, you have as much chance of having him outkicked as there is of him having you outkicked so you get all-in.

As well, if he's a *good* player, I'd be a lot less inclined to get all-in here. In fact, I'm sure I'd fold. What could he have that you would beat that he's willing to get all-in with if he knows what he's doing? There were 6 players to this flop so he has every reason to think one of them may have a T.

Ryan

fuzzbox
08-30-2005, 06:24 AM
When he calls the first bet and then reraises he has a T or 44. You just have to figure out if he would push hard with a weaker T than you.

I hate the limp preflop in that position with that hand in a full ring game.

subzero
08-30-2005, 09:10 AM
I'm folding that hand preflop. It's a trouble hand from EP. It can't stand a preflop raise and there are several players yet to act. Without a read, I have to think villain wouldn't play JT or worse in this spot. He's not afraid that you have a ten and it looks like he's trying to commit you with a min-raise. I think you're behind. 44 or AT seems likely.

wtfsvi
08-30-2005, 09:27 AM
Come play 6max in stead if you want to play QTs UTG+2. I mean in the CO /images/graemlins/smile.gif

If that guy is loose it's standard. If he's tight he really can't have anything but 44 or ATs.

Ghazban
08-30-2005, 09:27 AM
Why no reads?

I think you massively overplayed this. Unless UTG+1 is a complete donkey, he's got 44 or AT and you're in trouble. There are idiots, however, who will limp JT/T9 in EP and then play it this badly; hopefully you ran into one.