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JustToast
08-29-2005, 10:30 PM
Villain is pretty aggro so far. Pushing others around but has not clashed with me so far. He views me as TAG by my play so far.

Party NL 50 6-max 5 handed

Villain has $90.22
Hero has $50.68

Villain's stats are 52/15/2.67... so a typical LAG

Hero dealt Ks Kd on the button

Villain calls $0.50, hero raises to $2.00, blinds fold, villain calls

Pot is $4.75 - Flop: 8c Tc 3s
Hero bets $4, villain raises to $8, Hero calls $4 (figuring he put me on overcards and he caught a piece)

Pot is $20.75 - Turn: 2h
Villain bets $15, Hero pushes

standard? comments appreciated.

stu-unger
08-29-2005, 10:36 PM
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Villain is pretty aggro so far. Pushing others around but has not clashed with me so far. He views me as TAG by my play so far.

Party NL 50 6-max 5 handed

Villain has $90.22
Hero has $50.68

Villain's stats are 52/15/2.67... so a typical LAG

Hero dealt Ks Kd on the button

Villain calls $0.50, hero raises to $2.00, blinds fold, villain calls

Pot is $4.75 - Flop: 8c Tc 3s
Hero bets $4, villain raises to $8, Hero calls $4 (figuring he put me on overcards and he caught a piece)

Pot is $20.75 - Turn: 2h
Villain bets $15, Hero pushes

standard? comments appreciated.

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hmmmm... this ones got me confused. i dont think i would like my hand at all after i got min. c/r'ed. i think i would seriously comtemplate folding this turn, he seems to really like his hand. what range do u put him on? does he really plays a draw like this? i dont think u r ahead, but if u do, i think u get more value out of calling this down.

JustToast
08-29-2005, 10:45 PM
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Villain is pretty aggro so far. Pushing others around but has not clashed with me so far. He views me as TAG by my play so far.

Party NL 50 6-max 5 handed

Villain has $90.22
Hero has $50.68

Villain's stats are 52/15/2.67... so a typical LAG

Hero dealt Ks Kd on the button

Villain calls $0.50, hero raises to $2.00, blinds fold, villain calls

Pot is $4.75 - Flop: 8c Tc 3s
Hero bets $4, villain raises to $8, Hero calls $4 (figuring he put me on overcards and he caught a piece)

Pot is $20.75 - Turn: 2h
Villain bets $15, Hero pushes

standard? comments appreciated.

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hmmmm... this ones got me confused. i dont think i would like my hand at all after i got min. c/r'ed. i think i would seriously comtemplate folding this turn, he seems to really like his hand. what range do u put him on? does he really plays a draw like this? i dont think u r ahead, but if u do, i think u get more value out of calling this down.

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From this character I took the min c/r as him on a draw, or having part of the board and wanting to take it down after my standard continuation bet with a relatively dry board.

stu-unger
08-29-2005, 10:50 PM
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Villain is pretty aggro so far. Pushing others around but has not clashed with me so far. He views me as TAG by my play so far.

Party NL 50 6-max 5 handed

Villain has $90.22
Hero has $50.68

Villain's stats are 52/15/2.67... so a typical LAG

Hero dealt Ks Kd on the button

Villain calls $0.50, hero raises to $2.00, blinds fold, villain calls

Pot is $4.75 - Flop: 8c Tc 3s
Hero bets $4, villain raises to $8, Hero calls $4 (figuring he put me on overcards and he caught a piece)

Pot is $20.75 - Turn: 2h
Villain bets $15, Hero pushes

standard? comments appreciated.

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hmmmm... this ones got me confused. i dont think i would like my hand at all after i got min. c/r'ed. i think i would seriously comtemplate folding this turn, he seems to really like his hand. what range do u put him on? does he really plays a draw like this? i dont think u r ahead, but if u do, i think u get more value out of calling this down.

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From this character I took the min c/r as him on a draw, or having part of the board and wanting to take it down after my standard continuation bet with a relatively dry board.

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ok so he will min. c/r with a draw on the flop then lead for 3/4 on the turn. i hope your read is right, i just dont see a lot of people doing this. if hes got 9J or a club draw pushing isnt bad i guess seeing u wont get paid off on the river if he hits. i just dont see enough hands that we are ahead of calling, or the villain drawing enough to make this profitable.

jacknine
08-29-2005, 11:15 PM
You really think Hero is behind here?

Against a LAG - I would think you're pretty much ahead? I'd put im on a T with any possible kicker, AT KT QT JT T9 ... all pretty possible holdings.. Ofcourse he could have T8 and beat me to it - but since Hero described Villain as pushing around everybody at the table, I think he's got top pair at max.

I would make a massive reraise right back at him after he raises me on the flop. Looks to me like the perfect occasion to take this guy's money...