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suited_ace
08-29-2005, 02:48 PM
I exchanged some HHs with a friend of mine, and this is how he's been playing JJ & TT early on (levels 1 - 3):

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1475)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t945)
CO (t1225)
Button (t370)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800 (All-In)</font>.

I think this is suicidal (at least at the $11s and $22s). The edge you have later on is too big, you don't need these spots.

He thinks it's a +EV play - PT actually shows him gaining chips w/ JJ &amp; TT in levels 1 - 3. My point is that this is +chipEV, -$EV.

Anyways... Regardless of who's right or wrong, how do you play JJ &amp; TT in levels 1 -3? Why?
raptor517
08-29-2005, 02:48 PM
yer friend is a donk. holla
Myst
08-29-2005, 02:49 PM
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I exchanged some HHs with a friend of mine, and this is how he's been playing JJ &amp; TT early on (levels 1 - 3):

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1475)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t945)
CO (t1225)
Button (t370)
SB (t785)
Hero (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)

Preflop: Hero is BB with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/club.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t800 (All-In)</font>.

I think this is suicidal (at least at the $11s and $22s). The edge you have later on is too big, you don't need these spots.

He thinks it's a +EV play - PT actually shows him gaining chips w/ JJ &amp; TT in levels 1 - 3. My point is that this is +chipEV, -$EV.

Anyways... Regardless of who's right or wrong, how do you play JJ &amp; TT in levels 1 -3? Why?

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I would do what he did with a read, but thats been once or twice in a blue mooon.
stupidsucker
08-29-2005, 03:35 PM
what range would you put someone at the 11s on for that SB raise?

out of that range, what hands would the SB call with.

What are the chances that one of the 2 limpers has a monster?

I am not convinced this is a - EV move myself. It is surely + Chip EV and one could argue $/hour here.

What would you do with AK or QQ?

I think JJ is really drawing the line here.