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08-28-2005, 09:26 PM
Live tourney at the local casino. On the BB with JJ. An extremely aggressive table with lots of raising/reraising. Mid position limps in. 4 limpers around to me including SB and button. All the players in the pot had roughly equal average stacks (roughly $4000 - $5000). I didnt want to play this hand against multiple players. I reasoned that with this type of aggressive table anyone who had something worth raising would have brought it in. I raised 10x BB ($1000) hoping not to get a call and scoop up the $400 in weak limps. Also thought I would be ahead or at least a coin flip with anyone else. Button called my raise and an ace hit the flop. I checked to button and he moved all in. I folded and he showed off his AQo. Now, I dont like his play but regardless of that do you like mine? BTW had been tight aggressive up to this point and had not shown anything out of line.

stabn
08-28-2005, 10:15 PM
It's fine. You might want to post this in the tournament forum though.

XXXNoahXXX
08-28-2005, 10:15 PM
I think this is a good bet in live play and will often result in taking down the blinds. It will look a bit suspicious and you might get callers, the only problem comes when an A flops, as in this case. You might want to make a slightly smaller raise in case one the limpers reraises all in. (Beware the limp, reraise all-in, its deadly) If you do get a caller be prepared to push most flops, unless the A comes, I think u might want to lay it down, but people might be calling here with smaller pockets putting you on AK or Aq trying to get it heads up. Overall, I think a smaller raise 6x BB is in order.

jman220
08-28-2005, 10:16 PM
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Live tourney at the local casino. On the BB with JJ. An extremely aggressive table with lots of raising/reraising. Mid position limps in. 4 limpers around to me including SB and button. All the players in the pot had roughly equal average stacks (roughly $4000 - $5000). I didnt want to play this hand against multiple players. I reasoned that with this type of aggressive table anyone who had something worth raising would have brought it in. I raised 10x BB ($1000) hoping not to get a call and scoop up the $400 in weak limps. Also thought I would be ahead or at least a coin flip with anyone else. Button called my raise and an ace hit the flop. I checked to button and he moved all in. I folded and he showed off his AQo. Now, I dont like his play but regardless of that do you like mine? BTW had been tight aggressive up to this point and had not shown anything out of line.

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Your play is fine, but you knew that. Don't post bad beats. Good luck.

08-29-2005, 09:28 AM
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Live tourney at the local casino. On the BB with JJ. An extremely aggressive table with lots of raising/reraising. Mid position limps in. 4 limpers around to me including SB and button. All the players in the pot had roughly equal average stacks (roughly $4000 - $5000). I didnt want to play this hand against multiple players. I reasoned that with this type of aggressive table anyone who had something worth raising would have brought it in. I raised 10x BB ($1000) hoping not to get a call and scoop up the $400 in weak limps. Also thought I would be ahead or at least a coin flip with anyone else. Button called my raise and an ace hit the flop. I checked to button and he moved all in. I folded and he showed off his AQo. Now, I dont like his play but regardless of that do you like mine? BTW had been tight aggressive up to this point and had not shown anything out of line.

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Your play is fine, but you knew that. Don't post bad beats. Good luck.

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I folded the hand. Not really a bad beat. Just wanted to know if committing 1/4 of my stack from bad position with a pair of jacks against an aggressive table is a good play or not. I think there was reasonable thinking on my part just wanted to hear some feedback.

08-29-2005, 03:34 PM
If you know the table is that aggressive I really don't like the play. If they are that aggressive then you're likely to get called.
Check, see a flop. Proceed if it's not too scary. Would you still bet that much with the Ace showing after the flop? My guess is no.

trigeek08
08-29-2005, 04:24 PM
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Just wanted to know if committing 1/4 of my stack from bad position with a pair of jacks against an aggressive table is a good play or not.

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A pot sized bet, T400-T600, will do as much as a T1000 bet would. The only thing that would result from your raise that wouldn't happen with a T600 bet would be one of the overly aggressive players may make a move over the top of you, suspecting theivery, depending on whether or not they are observent enough to know you had been playing tight, IMO. If they are being observent, then they should read a raise of T500 or so to mean strength, as you are willing to do it out of position.