Bad/stupid/improbable scenes of other wise good movies

[thatpfunk]

This one bothers me a lot:

Kill Bill I, The bride and Vernita Green are fighting. Vernita Green is a deadly assasin and she fires at Uma through the box of cereal from 5 feet away and misses her??? WTF? Couldn't Quentin have thought of something plausible?

Does stuff like this bother anyone else?

[Phoenix1010]

That bothered me too. Really didn't fit.

[Chobohoya]

The end of Zatoichi with all the [censored] dancing. I watched it the first time just to see what happened, but that about did it for me.

[LeatherFace]

Vegas Vacation when the guy with the winning keno ticket dies. He winks at clark and then dies, and then the paramedics arrive like half a second later, and barely check his pulse and say hes dead (terrible acting) and somehow knew all about this guy. Other than that I really liked vegas vacation.

How about the curb scene in American History X, before I would put my mouth on that curb i would have forced that guy to shoot me(just because the guy is racist, doesn't make him an animal which is all that scene was about)). Thought that was a stretch. Or the scene in Traffic where Del toro and his partner are digging their own graves knowing their gonna die. Why would they?

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That bothered me too. Really didn't fit.

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yeah this bugged me a lot actually

[Jimbo]

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Or the scene in Traffic where Del toro and his partner are digging their own graves knowing their gonna die. Why would they?


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Because their only other choice to live was to rape a woamn and that was obviously impossible.

Yeah, Vernita should have hit her at that range. Revenge of the Sith was pretty good, but when a newly repaired Darth Vader threw his hands up in the air and screamed, "Nooooo...." I laughed my ass off, in a bad way.

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Or the scene in Traffic where Del toro and his partner are digging their own graves knowing their gonna die. Why would they?


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Because their only other choice to live was to rape a woamn and that was obviously impossible.

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Well then, that explains it. I knew I was missing something.
LOL

polltard

[Dave G.]

I can't believe noone has mentioned From Dusk Till Dawn. That whole movie was good, except for the ending which was completely unexpected, and completely retarded too. I couldn't believe it. They ruined a perfectly servicable plotline with all that vampire [censored]. Terrible ending.

Another really lame one was Die Hard 2. The movie was okayish itself, nothing to rave about, but the scene where Bruce is in the airplane cockpit and they're lobbing grenades into it to kill him. It takes 40 seconds (literally) for any of those grenades to blow, giving him plenty of time to escape. Conveniently they all blow at exactly the moment that Bruce pulls the ejection lever and flies away to safety. That really sucked balls.

[Hamish McBagpipe]

Bad Scene - good movie.

"What's in the box? Awwwwwww, c'mon, what's in the booooxxx?!?"

Almost movie destroying crappy scene from Pitt.

[Malone Brown]

I always hated the video game sequence in "The Beach"

Other than that I liked the movie.

[DeezNuts]

I always hated the montage part in Scarface where they fast forward Tony's rise to the top, showing him buying new clothes, cars, etc. The music is so cheesy. It kills me.

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I always hated the montage part in Scarface where they fast forward Tony's rise to the top, showing him buying new clothes, cars, etc. The music is so cheesy. It kills me.

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[Rushmore]

Yes, this sort of sh*t bugs the hell out of me.

I thought Magnolia was a great, GREAT movie.

But Goddamnit, no matter how much I want to, I cannot accept the frogs at the end. It's actually genuinely annoying to me, especially since I thought every other second of that movie was great. I don't like anything about the frogs--the plot significance, the visual, and particularly the point Anderson was making.

Here's another: Wild At Heart, the entire Wizard of Oz theme. Blecch. Annoying. Otherwise, I really enjoyed the movie.

Uuuhh, what about Shakes The Clown, when they totally ruined an otherwise brilliant movie by getting all serious at the end, when Shakes is having DT's and ends up in AA? Please. Totally inconsistent with the rest of the movie.

Uuummmm...Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf?, when, at the end, George Segal's character realizes there is no son, and starts saying "Oh my God, I think I understand this" over and over again, while Richard Burton does some last rites in Latin while Sandy Dennis is crying and says "Amen."

Arg. Go back to the part where the picture has a "quietly noisy relaxed intensity" or where George Segal is preparing to "plow pertinent wives," but leave all of the uber-maudlin stuff for the stage, kids.

Another, another...hmmm...ok, here's a small one:

In Goodfellas, after Jimmy tells them all not to buy anything at all whatsoever with the loot from the Lufthansa job, a couple of guys get their ears pinned back in the club for buying a car and a fur coat. Henry is right there. Jump-cut to Henry coming through his front door with a huge white Christmas tree, saying "I got the most expensive one they had!"

What was the point of that? First of all, clearly, this could not be seen as a transgression of Jimmy's rule. Secondly, what the hell does Karen care about a f*cking Christmas tree? She's a Jew. Whatever. Ultimately, my point is that sequence never made any sense to me, to be honest.

I got a million of 'em, but there's a couple.

[Uethym]

Raiders of the Lost Ark, when Indy is wheeling around on the German submarine as it prepares to dive, and then suddenly he's on Secret Nazi Island.

Honestly, I thought that's what this thread would be about when I opened it.

[Diplomat]

Han Solo shoots first.

-Diplomat

[Rushmore]

In The Untouchables (not one of my favorite movies, but not awful), the entire train station scene (which DePalma does AGAIN [yawn] in Carlito's Way). Blecch. Yes, Mr. DePalma, you are a master at weaving a tapestry of blah blah with your 360 degree camera yadda yadda and the family tie-in with Elliot Ness and the weird looking overgrown baby in the crib etc etc ad infinitum.

And don't get me started on Body Double, ruined by two scenes (one of a Big Dramatic 360 Degree Kiss, the other of the Most Improbable Porn Scene Ever). Otherwise, it was A-OK, just ask Patrick Bateman.

Back to Carlito's Way for a second, and another glaringly bad scene: the interminably cheesy scene where "Charlie" goes over to Gail's house and freakin Billy Preston's "You Are So Beautiful" is playing and Carlito is driven to bust down the door because Penelope Ann Miller's ass causes Carlito to become sexually aroused, followed by...you guessed it--a 360 degree kiss scene cheesier than should be permitted in a movie.

Ultimately followed up, of course, by a train station scene.

Thank you very much, Brian DePalma.

[Phoenix1010]

Not really a scene: The Deer Hunter, we're led to believe that Nick has been in Southeast Asia playing Russian Roulette for money for however many years that section of the movie spans, and he stays alive until Mike gets there? He wins thousands of dollars to send back Steven flipping coins with his life without ever losing? It's not like it's a game of skill. Just a gross stretch of the imagination.

[The Ocho]

Boba Fett getting killed slap-stick-style. He deserved better.

[Rushmore]

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Not really a scene: The Deer Hunter, we're led to believe that Nick has been in Southeast Asia playing Russian Roulette for money for however many years that section of the movie spans, and he stays alive until Mike gets there? He wins thousands of dollars to send back Steven flipping coins with his life without ever losing? It's not like it's a game of skill. Just a gross stretch of the imagination.

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This is a good one, even though I don't think it was supposed to have spanned so long a time as you mention.

Yeah, those guys need a better union. No way should he have had to play that damned game for that long.

[Phoenix1010]

He should have played poker instead. Talk about DERB.

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Not really a scene: The Deer Hunter, we're led to believe that Nick has been in Southeast Asia playing Russian Roulette for money for however many years that section of the movie spans, and he stays alive until Mike gets there? He wins thousands of dollars to send back Steven flipping coins with his life without ever losing? It's not like it's a game of skill. Just a gross stretch of the imagination.

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SPOILER-When they are prisoners, Mike talks about willing an empty chamber into the gun or something like that. I think russian roulette is supposed to represent force of will. Which is why Mike wins when he plays Nick. Of course I could just be an idiot.

[flatline]

I don't know if this exactly qualifies, but I thought Changing Lanes was a great movie for the most part. It went completely hardcore until the end when they just kiss and make up. The final scence should have been Samuel J. taking a drink.

[thatpfunk]

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But Goddamnit, no matter how much I want to, I cannot accept the frogs at the end. It's actually genuinely annoying to me, especially since I thought every other second of that movie was great. I don't like anything about the frogs--the plot significance, the visual, and particularly the point Anderson was making.

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The frog thing is an actual documented phenomenon, just in case you didn't know.

I can understand disliking the significance however.

[Jules22]

end of die hard 3 where he looks at the aspirin and then they go to quebec city. worst ending ever

[david050173]

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Boba Fett getting killed slap-stick-style. He deserved better.

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The preqeuls should have show Jar-Jar putting on Boba Fetts armor. Watching the fan boys cry when they learn who thier hero was would have made them worthwhile....

[pryor15]

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Or the scene in Traffic where Del toro and his partner are digging their own graves knowing their gonna die. Why would they?

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i always thought that was pretty much standard practice in the wild west (or wherever the hell people get executed in the desert)...then again i've never had that come up personally, so i can't be sure.

[pryor15]

** all the news footage in "Boondock Saints", especially the montage of people at the very end. it's so dumb and so poorly done that it lowers my opinion of the entire movie. i'm convinced the studio added it.

** while the movie isn't all that good, every single scene of drew barrymore and her friends in "Fever Pitch"

** i could have done without parts of "Easy Rider", particularly the slow pan around the circle of hippies. or maybe i'm missing something there

** i have a friend who hates the "raindrops keep falling on my head" scene in "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid"...i have no idea why.

[craig r]

They should have stuck with the original ending to True Romance.

craig

[rocketlaunch]

Not that great a movie, but the Born Identity near the end where he grabs the dead body and jumps down the middle of the spiral staircase, shooting the bad guy dead-on between the eyes, before landing like 10-15 floors below, only to be fine.

I mean, admittedly the movie often stretched the boundaries of believeability, but that was way waaaay over the top.

[PLOlover]

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They should have stuck with the original ending to True Romance.

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What was the original?

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What was the original?

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Tarantino wrote it that Clarence (slater) dies. The alternate ending is on one of the DVD's. The studio didn't want it though. Oh, and when Alabama is leaving the hotel that he was shot in, it is obvious she never loved him and was a "whore" after all.

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[PLOlover]

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Not that great a movie, but the Born Identity near the end where he grabs the dead body and jumps down the middle of the spiral staircase, shooting the bad guy dead-on between the eyes, before landing like 10-15 floors below, only to be fine.

I mean, admittedly the movie often stretched the boundaries of believeability, but that was way waaaay over the top.

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Coupled with the fact that it was stated that tens of millions had been spent on each operative, one has to wonder if he was genetically engineered or something. Bionic?

[mike4bmp]

Two scenes in Die Hard Two....not sure if this can be considered a good movie...but anways.

1.McClain is talking with his wife on the phone at the airport...he is supposed to be at Dulles Airport in Washington DC...but the pay phone says Pacific Bell which is in the West Coast.

2. He explains how the terrorists got through the metal detectors armed...he said they were carrying Glocks which have no metal parts that are detectable by the sensors...BS!

[youtalkfunny]

Jake Taylor beating out a 2-out bunt single...driving in a run from second base...while everyone in the stands is wearing shorts and t-shirts during a playoff game (October, presumably), in Cleveland, at night...

Oh yeah, and 80% of the fans at the game are female...and half of them are over 60.

[ScottyP431]

Jurasic park 3- at the end the marines or something land on the island with tanks and lots of troops with guns, and then they never kill any dinosaurs. For a split second when i saw that part of me thought the movie would redeem itself with some awesome guns blazing man v dino action a la Aliens. Unfortunately it ended.

Actually, that is kind of a movie where there is one scene that could be good but wasn't, and the rest of the movie sucks... soooo it might not technically be what this thread is about... in fact it might be the exact opposite

[smokingrobot]

the frogs in magnolia was a biblical reference. there are biblical references throughout the movie as well.

the intro talks about those uncanny coincidences and i thought the raining frogs scene was supposed to imply that anything truly can happen.

i felt the same way about it when i first saw it as well.

this is the best explanation i could come up with for this scene, and its not very good, but it makes sense with the rest of the themse running throughout the movie.

[Dave G.]

I just remembered another one from Die Hard 2. Bruce is in the cop station trying to explain to the cop Lorenzo (NYPD Blue dude) that the terrorists were using blanks when fighting the marines. He opens up with a machine gun to prove his point, and about 20 cops just stand around letting him fire for a few seconds. When he stops the cops just holster their guns. Come on, every cop and his mother would be gunning his ass down.

Come to think of it, Die Hard 2 really isn't much of a movie. The original was way way better.

Robin Hood: Men in Tights

When Robin arrives homes from the crusades he finds his castle is on wheels and being towed away. The blind guy is sitting on the toilet and as the castle is pulled away he's left sitting there. I mean how does the wall of the castle go past him?

[thatpfunk]

Frog Info (http://paranormal.about.com/library/weekly/aa082602a.htm)

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Here are some of the more unusual cases - a small sampling from thousands of reports over the years - that defy all rational explanation.

Frogs

* In 1873, Scientific American reported that Kansas City, Missouri was blanketed with frogs that dropped from the sky during a storm.
* Minneapolis, Minnesota was pelted with frogs and toads in July, 1901. A news item stated: "When the storm was at its highest... there appeared as if descending directly from the sky a huge green mass. Then followed a peculiar patter, unlike that of rain or hail. When the storm abated the people found, three inches deep and covering an area of more than four blocks, a collection of a most striking variety of frogs... so thick in some places [that] travel was impossible."
* The citizens of Naphlion, a city in southern Greece, were surprised one morning in May, 1981, when they awoke to find small green frogs falling from the sky. Weighing just a few ounces each, the frogs landed in trees and plopped into the streets. The Greek Meteorological Institute surmised they were picked up by a strong wind. It must have been a very strong wind. The species of frog was native to North Africa!
* In 1995, reports Fortean Times Online, Nellie Straw of Sheffield, England, was driving through Scotland on holiday with her family when they encountered a severe storm. Along with the heavy rain, however, hundreds of frogs suddenly pelted her car.


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I've read something about this before. Apparently it has been a freak occurence when a small tornado/hurricane/storm goes through lake/swampland and picks them up and eventually drops them somewhere.

[KaneKungFu123]

independence day sucks, but one scene where will smith steals a chopper, then finds his wife in the rubble of LA the next scene that sucked more then the rest.

[Rushmore]

Seeing as you guys have decided to discuss this further, I will elaborate on why I hated it.

I understand the point. I hate the point. Just because it's not some absurd non sequitur doesn't mean it's not a severe flaw in the film.

You have several very well-done, interweaving HUMAN plot themes, each of which could actually merit its own (small, independent) film. The humanity is what's great about the movie. Then the frogs, a seemingly arbitrary force majure, if you will. It's dissatisfying. To me, at least.

[Rushmore]

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1.McClain is talking with his wife on the phone at the airport...he is supposed to be at Dulles Airport in Washington DC...but the pay phone says Pacific Bell which is in the West Coast.

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You're not going to believe this, but I noticed that.

You know what else I notice? The relection of the camera crew in windows. ALL THE FREAKIN TIME. It's actually a curse.

[Dudd]

The striptease at the end of Slapshot. Just let them fight already, no one cares about Braden impressing his wife.

[RunDownHouse]

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I always hated the montage part in Scarface where they fast forward Tony's rise to the top, showing him buying new clothes, cars, etc. The music is so cheesy. It kills me.

DN

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This is possibly the greatest montage ever filmed. Its great.

[stinkypete]

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This one bothers me a lot:

Kill Bill I, The bride and Vernita Green are fighting. Vernita Green is a deadly assasin and she fires at Uma through the box of cereal from 5 feet away and misses her??? WTF? Couldn't Quentin have thought of something plausible?

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there was a toy in the cereal box made of metal that the bullet deflected off

[imported_The Vibesman]

There's always stuff like that. The end of 48 Hours always kills me: "I don't believe it! I GOT SHOT!" How stupid is that?

In "Hard-Boiled", the fantastic John Woo actioner with Chow Yun-Fat and Tony Leung, there is an assasin who uses a target pistol which only holds one shot. That's great, but in the scene with him and Yun-Fat, he keeps missing. Reload, miss. Reload, miss. I'm sorry, anyone who takes a gun like that to a fight does so because he knows how to shoot it.

And, yeah, the end of Major League where Hays scores from second on a bunt single is the silliest thing in the world.

[durron597]

The resurrection scene at the end of Matrix 1. Movie good, terrible cheese to leave me pissed off at the end.

Edit: And I agree 100% with Rushmore about Magnolia

[krimson]

Gone in 60 seconds, the car jump at the end was so over the top, the car might as well have sprouted wings and flew over the traffic.

Mission Impossible, this whole movie was pretty unrealistic, but flying a helicopter through a train tunnel was just ridiculous.

[astroglide]

all of boondock saints was bad/stupid/improbable

[Shajen]

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all of boondock saints was bad/stupid/improbable

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Indeed it was, but I have a soft spot for this movie for some reason.

Probably the idea of taking the law into your own hands and killing scum.

This was definitely a "put your brain in park for a couple hours" show.

[gravis]

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** all the news footage in "Boondock Saints", especially the montage of people at the very end. it's so dumb and so poorly done that it lowers my opinion of the entire movie. i'm convinced the studio added it.


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if you watch the movie commentary with troy duffy (writer/director) he talks about how he interviewed his friends, neighbors from his apartment building and random people on the street to get the fake news footage shots.

[pryor15]

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** all the news footage in "Boondock Saints", especially the montage of people at the very end. it's so dumb and so poorly done that it lowers my opinion of the entire movie. i'm convinced the studio added it.


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if you watch the movie commentary with troy duffy (writer/director) he talks about how he interviewed his friends, neighbors from his apartment building and random people on the street to get the fake news footage shots.

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really? b/c that scene is one of the worst things he could have done there, doesn't fit the rest of the film, and shows a complete lack of knowledge of how news is filmed.

[coffeecrazy1]

Rounders - seriously...how mad would you have to be to turn down a horny-for-you Famke Janssen? I mean...I don't even think it's possible for me to get so distracted that I would not go straight into the bedroom.
Also...the read at the judges' game is simply ridiculous.

Man on Fire - the one scene that keeps this movie from greatness is the end scene. Without giving it away, let's just say that I think there was a better way to handle it, rather than just getting into the car...why not on the bridge?

Revenge of the Sith - Wait a minute...Count Dooku is able to hold his own against Yoda but Anakin beheads him in under a minute now? So...is Anakin already better than Yoda? I highly doubt it.

Hoosiers - Gene Hackman and Barbara Hershey hate each other...so they make out.

*I would also like to mention that nearly every romantic comedy is comprised of people acting improbably.

*Also...I love'em, but at some point, size would become an issue for Rocky...especially against Drago. Sly is, at most, 5' 10", and Dolph Lundgren is 6' 4" or more...six inches of difference in a boxing match is almost ludicrous to overcome.

In the James Bond movie "Goldeneye" I thought it was pretty ridiculous when he jumps off a cliff riding a motorcycle and then somehow he and his bike fall at a faster rate then the plane and he is able to skydive into the door of the plane.

[daryn]

why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

[jedi]

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Greedo shoots first in the Special Edition

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[swede123]

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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[daryn]

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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i didn't fix anything. are you trying to be stupid?

[Grisgra]

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Jurasic park 3- at the end the marines or something land on the island with tanks and lots of troops with guns, and then they never kill any dinosaurs.

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Obviously, that wasn't a good movie . . . but that cracked me up too. They're a freaking army and they don't kill ONE goddamn dinosaur with their BFGs.

[swede123]

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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i didn't fix anything. are you trying to be stupid?

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Yes, I'm trying to be stupid. Why would he fall faster than a plane that's accelerating downwards?

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[Shajen]

Because he's James Frigging Bond.

DUH.

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[daryn]

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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i didn't fix anything. are you trying to be stupid?

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Yes, I'm trying to be stupid. Why would he fall faster than a plane that's accelerating downwards?

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uhh.. wings. lift.


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Mm hmm, well that's...very good...for a first try. You know what? I have a ball. [pulls one from his pocket] Perhaps you'd like to bounce it?

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[CanKid]

ya WTF WAS THAT?

[swede123]

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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i didn't fix anything. are you trying to be stupid?

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Yes, I'm trying to be stupid. Why would he fall faster than a plane that's accelerating downwards?

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uhh.. wings. lift.


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You are probably talking about drag, not lift. My point is that planes are design to minimize drag, to make them more effective at flying. The guy in the movie is trying to take off, accelerating and most likely has the air brakes or whatever turned off to minimize drag. When the plane then is going straight down with the engine accelerating I think it would be hard for someone to fall faster.

Swede

[daryn]

he's trying to take off? by going straight down? maybe i'm not understanding the situation, but anytime an airplane moves through air, the wind moving around the wings generates lift, that pushes up on the wings. even if the plane were just falling straight down, i'd imagine the wings would still generate a huge amount of drag compared the the small dude on motorcycle.

[CanKid]

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Rounders - seriously...how mad would you have to be to turn down a horny-for-you Famke Janssen? I mean...I don't even think it's possible for me to get so distracted that I would not go straight into the bedroom.
Also...the read at the judges' game is simply ridiculous.

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I liked how he turned her down, he knows he could have her whenever now, why when he's frustrated about his best friend's betrayal and he just got dumped by his long term lady? It's just some clam, he's got good TV and booze anyway.

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Man on Fire - the one scene that keeps this movie from greatness is the end scene. Without giving it away, let's just say that I think there was a better way to handle it, rather than just getting into the car...why not on the bridge?

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*stop reading if you haven't seen this movie*

There's a ton of reasons I can imagine why they'd bring him back to their boss rather than just shoot him on a bridge, one of which being I doubt they'd want to risk f'ing up the agreement, since it's clear they were interested in a legitimate trade. It's more likely the boss wanted to torture and/or kill him himself, regardless, they can commit a murder in public or in privacy.

I don't think the ending was flawed at all.

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Revenge of the Sith - Wait a minute...Count Dooku is able to hold his own against Yoda but Anakin beheads him in under a minute now? So...is Anakin already better than Yoda? I highly doubt it.

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I agree, maybe Dooku had gas.

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*Also...I love'em, but at some point, size would become an issue for Rocky...especially against Drago. Sly is, at most, 5' 10", and Dolph Lundgren is 6' 4" or more...six inches of difference in a boxing match is almost ludicrous to overcome.

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Isn't this the entire point of the movie?

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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I don't understand your fix. Are you trying to be witty?

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i didn't fix anything. are you trying to be stupid?

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Yes, I'm trying to be stupid. Why would he fall faster than a plane that's accelerating downwards?

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uhh.. wings. lift.


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You are probably talking about drag, not lift. My point is that planes are design to minimize drag, to make them more effective at flying. The guy in the movie is trying to take off, accelerating and most likely has the air brakes or whatever turned off to minimize drag. When the plane then is going straight down with the engine accelerating I think it would be hard for someone to fall faster.

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Good call. daryn doesn't know [censored] about physics.

[mmbt0ne]

The whole movie sucks, but this part really pissed me off. When Dennis Quaid is tretching through the snow with his 2 associates, they end up walking over a mall atrium. The guy in the back cracks the glass, and falls in, but since they are all tied together when Quaid's character slams his ice-pick into the ground to stop them from going anywhere.

Real quick:

a) they are walking ON TOP OF A [censored] MALL. That's how much snow there is.
b) they are on the atrium of the mall
c) Dennis Quaid uses his ice-pick.

The only possible thing he could've put his icepick into is a panel of glass. So, apparently you can hold yourself up on glass that shatters from the weight of one person by piercing it with an ice pick.

[imported_The Vibesman]

In the first Die Hard, when Bruce Willis ties the fire hose around his waist, jumps off the exploding roof of the building and kicks his way through a glass office building window with bare, bloody feet?
Well, I'm sorry, but the knot he tied with that fire hose was NOT strong enough to hold him. He had to at least double it.

Also, there's From Dusk Till Dawn. In one scene, Salma Hayek is standing on top of George Clooney. She's a blood drinking vampire who's face changes into a monster. Clooney shoots the chain of the chandeleir above her, snapping it with with one shot. Well, the chandeleir falls on Hayek, but missed Clooney completely even though he is lying right beneath her. That's impossible.
Also, at the end, when Cheech comes in to save them and the vampires all explode in the room. I just don't believe a disco ball can reflect that much light.
Plus, there's a club which is filled exclusively with vampires, built on top of a half-buried Mayan pyramid, which has been devouring bikers and truckers for fifty years without anyone noticing. Well, they have to drive hours through Mexico to get to this place, yet the Neon sign in front is in English, not Spanish. C'mon, how am I supposed to believe that?

In Resident Evil: Apocalypse, how did Alice know the others were holed up in the church, and come flying through the window on the bike in just enough time to save them? This movie was totally realistic otherwise, but this bit just killed it for me.

In Escape From LA, Snake Plissken surfs on a wave on a drainage pipe next to a highway, rides the crest of the wave right next to the highway and manages to jump from his board into Steve Buscemi's moving convertable on the highway. Only thing is, the shade of Red on Buscemi's car was DISCONTINUED BEFORE THE TIME THE MOVIE WAS SET IN!! No way could he have gotten his car that shade. WTF? Later in the movie Plissken finds a half-empty pack of cigarettes in the woods. Even tho cigs have been illegal there for years, the smokes in the woods are not damp or ruined, just fine. Another completely credible movie ruined.

I've got more...

[swede123]

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In Resident Evil: Apocalypse, how did Alice know the others were holed up in the church, and come flying through the window on the bike in just enough time to save them? This movie was totally realistic otherwise, but this bit just killed it for me.

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Now this is comedic genius. Nice one!

Swede

[coffeecrazy1]

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Rounders - seriously...how mad would you have to be to turn down a horny-for-you Famke Janssen? I mean...I don't even think it's possible for me to get so distracted that I would not go straight into the bedroom.
Also...the read at the judges' game is simply ridiculous.

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I liked how he turned her down, he knows he could have her whenever now, why when he's frustrated about his best friend's betrayal and he just got dumped by his long term lady? It's just some clam, he's got good TV and booze anyway.

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Good TV + booze &gt; banging Famke Janssen? Really? You know, given that all of us can achieve one of these, while most cannot achieve the other, I feel that your logic is flawed.

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Man on Fire - the one scene that keeps this movie from greatness is the end scene. Without giving it away, let's just say that I think there was a better way to handle it, rather than just getting into the car...why not on the bridge?

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*stop reading if you haven't seen this movie*

There's a ton of reasons I can imagine why they'd bring him back to their boss rather than just shoot him on a bridge, one of which being I doubt they'd want to risk f'ing up the agreement, since it's clear they were interested in a legitimate trade. It's more likely the boss wanted to torture and/or kill him himself, regardless, they can commit a murder in public or in privacy.

I don't think the ending was flawed at all.

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It just felt like a thin ending, from a dramatic point of view. I can almost picture Denzel managing an ironic smile right before the shot hits him on the bridge. I have no doubt about the torture aspect, or whatever...but the trade was already made, and I just like the dramatic nuance of him trading his life for Pita's. It just seemed like it would have made a more cathartic ending.

MOF is a very good movie, but the ending that occurs, I believe, keeps it from complete greatness.

[TheCroShow]

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Boba Fett getting killed slap-stick-style. He deserved better.

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for those of us that do not read tons and tons of books, boba fett didn't get played like a fool there. how do i know this??

well i was in a video store and star wars was on, and i commented this, "man, how does a bad ass mofo like boba fett get punked out like that?!?!"

attractive girl behind me says "boba fett didn't die there, he was injured or whatever but he lived on. i know this because i read the books."

cro pauses, jaw drops on floor and pretends to listen to what actually happened to boba fett.


my 2 cents...the rave scene in the matrix reloaded wtf small complaint..what else...

american wedding: jim (jason biggs) shaves his pubic hair, and then tosses them out the window? wtf man, toss that [censored] in the garbage or flush it down the toilet. that scene always bugged me, funny or not.

[Alobar]

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Raiders of the Lost Ark, when Indy is wheeling around on the German submarine as it prepares to dive, and then suddenly he's on Secret Nazi Island.

Honestly, I thought that's what this thread would be about when I opened it.

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the scene that bugs me the most in that movie is the begining when he has the bag of sand and swaps it with the gold artifact, and after eyeing the artifact he lets sad out of the bag, cuz he thinks the bag is to heavy....wtf?? The guy is supposed to be a [censored] scholar and renound archiolgist and he doesnt realize a bag of sand isnt goign to weight anywhere NEAR what a gold artifact is gunna weight??

[RunDownHouse]

[censored] Alobar, if that ruined the beginning of the movie for me, I'll hate you forever.

Daryn, think about what you're saying: a plane can never accelerate to a speed faster than terminal velocity.

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The final scence should have been Samuel J. taking a drink.

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"Taste good, mothaf****?!" and "It's my beer!" immediately spring to mind.

I miss Chappelle. /images/graemlins/frown.gif

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Gold is actually very malleable and light. And he's a historical scholar if I remembered right, not an archeaologist.

-AC

[imported_The Vibesman]

Prof. Jones most certainly was an archaeologist.

Ah...I love those movies, but I haven't seen them in a long time. Whoops.

-AC

[lucas9000]

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Not really a scene: The Deer Hunter, we're led to believe that Nick has been in Southeast Asia playing Russian Roulette for money for however many years that section of the movie spans, and he stays alive until Mike gets there? He wins thousands of dollars to send back Steven flipping coins with his life without ever losing? It's not like it's a game of skill. Just a gross stretch of the imagination.

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but notice that his loss to michael coincides with him snapping back into his former self. i think you're taking it too literally.

[lucas9000]

the part in casino where pesci stabs the guy in the neck repeatedly with a pen, and they show blood squirting out, but somehow the guy isn't dead. wtf.

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[censored] Alobar, if that ruined the beginning of the movie for me, I'll hate you forever.

Daryn, think about what you're saying: a plane can never accelerate to a speed faster than terminal velocity.

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this statement is so ambiguous it's crazy

[johnc]

Just saw Four Brothers yesterday. They are trapped in a house while the bad guys (3 or 4) are shooting into the house nonstop with FULLY automatic weapons. Hundreds rounds are flying all thru the house even the brick portion. Of the five people in the house, with constant shooting, nobody was hit. BS

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why wouldn't he fall faster than the plane?

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The fastest Bond can fall is, by definition, his terminal velocity. This is pretty much a constant for humans in free-flight.

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he's trying to take off? by going straight down? maybe i'm not understanding the situation, but anytime an airplane moves through air, the wind moving around the wings generates lift, that pushes up on the wings. even if the plane were just falling straight down, i'd imagine the wings would still generate a huge amount of drag compared the the small dude on motorcycle.

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First, the lift generated by (I think) Bernoulli's Principle doesn't necessarily act directly upwards on the wing. The direction of the force depends on the orientation of the wing. Second, by saying that Bond can catch up to the plane, you're saying that the plane is travelling at less than the terminal velocity of Bond, and seem to point to "drag" as the reason. You have discounted the engine entirely, meaning either you forgot about it, or think that the engine can't generate enough speed to overcome the "drag" being generated.

Essentially, you're saying that a plane can't travel downwards faster than Bond's terminal velocity. Even without googling what the terminal velocity (~54m/s (http://hypertextbook.com/facts/JianHuang.shtml)) of a body is, this is a pretty ridiculous statement.

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Robin Hood: Men in Tights

When Robin arrives homes from the crusades he finds his castle is on wheels and being towed away. The blind guy is sitting on the toilet and as the castle is pulled away he's left sitting there. I mean how does the wall of the castle go past him?

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Yes, as a guy with a background in Architecture, this really irked me. As well as the Academy who issued this statement: "Due to the underwhelming plausibility of the castle-removal scene, we are forced to keep R.H.M.i.T. off of the Best Picture ballot. We regretfully inform Mel Brooks, and all his loyal fans of this decision."

Signed,
The Academy

Jon Voigt's character in Deliverance climbs up a 100 foot rocky cliff at a 90d angle with his bare hands, while it's getting dark, and it's been a long day and he'd undoubtedly tired as h***.

Then when he gets to the top...I still don't understand how he shot that guy up there... I just don't get it, but whatever.

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The fastest Bond can fall is, by definition, his terminal velocity. This is pretty much a constant for humans in free-flight.

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this statement is incredibly incorrect. well, the first part is correct, the second is not. the first part is just a tautology though, so you get no points.

[RunDownHouse]

If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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Die Hard 2. Bruce is in the cop station ... He opens up with a machine gun to prove his point, and about 20 cops just stand around letting him fire for a few seconds.

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Agree, good one.

My nomination: In the first Batman movie, Jack Nicholson as The Joker is hanging onto a rope ladder up to a helicopter, while his ankle is tied to a large stone gargoyle statue. He is an ordinary (albeit ugly) human with no super-strength, but he is able to hold onto the rope with his hands stongly enough that he rips the statue from the portion of the building that it is fused to, and then floats around in the air with it dangling form his leg for awhile. No one's fingers are that strong.

[daryn]

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If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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no need to read the link. and i'm not wrong.

how can you say terminal velocity is constant for a falling human? what if i put my arms and legs together and point my head down? what if i then spread my arms and legs and orient my body parallel to the ground? what would happen to my terminal velocity in both of those cases?

[RunDownHouse]

I said "pretty much." When you compare the range of speeds for a human to the range of speed for the plane, its fairly narrow. In other words, Bond pointing his body like an arrow will not result in significant gains on the plane.

Now, with that out of the way: do you still maintain that a plane cannot travel towards the ground faster than Bond's terminal velocity?

[Oski]

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Seeing as you guys have decided to discuss this further, I will elaborate on why I hated it.

I understand the point. I hate the point. Just because it's not some absurd non sequitur doesn't mean it's not a severe flaw in the film.

You have several very well-done, interweaving HUMAN plot themes, each of which could actually merit its own (small, independent) film. The humanity is what's great about the movie. Then the frogs, a seemingly arbitrary force majure, if you will. It's dissatisfying. To me, at least.

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I agree with your points, perhaps the point could have been made in a more subtle manner.

The movie is about taking control of your own life. To illustrate the point, the opening shows highly improbable events to show how our lives can be influenced by remote happenings (indeed, a force majure). Once the characters are introduced, it is clear that each one has a particular (at least one) flaw that prevents them from taking control of their life and moving on.

At the end, each one has acknowledged the shortcoming and has taken steps to move forward with their lives notwithstanding external factors. To highlight the fact these characters have finally taken control of their fate (or at least reconciled their problem) the frogs start hailing down ... The improbably event is happening, yet the players still are moving forward as they have finally taken control.


On another note. The movie "The Fan" which was a turd, had a terrible scene. The late inning rain storm was totally absurd. Also, if I recall correctly, the baseball scenes leading up to that kept mixing up the Giants home and away games. They would be wearing their greys at home, and whites away (unless it was intended they were to wear home jerseys at Dodger stadium).

[Alobar]

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If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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I don't know why everyone else hasnt figured it out by now, but Daryn is simply a giant troll. Stop encouraging him and maybe he will go away again.

[Larimani]

the ending scene of face-off is so cheesy... it's cringing.

I remember a thriller with Nicole Kidman. Billy Zane played the villain. Dead Calm. Kidman and her husband was on a sailboat and picked Zane-character from a wreck, and of course after that he went psycho...

The ending was just such a grand disapointment. First Zane-character dies and falls overboard. But a few moments later he returns like he was Jason or something and is now killed for the second time, he is shot by a flare right in his face. And then he is just standing there with the flare stuck in his mouth, burning with pink light. It's just plain bad. And it totally ruins the whole movie.

[daryn]

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I said "pretty much." When you compare the range of speeds for a human to the range of speed for the plane, its fairly narrow. In other words, Bond pointing his body like an arrow will not result in significant gains on the plane.

Now, with that out of the way: do you still maintain that a plane cannot travel towards the ground faster than Bond's terminal velocity?

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

[daryn]

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If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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I don't know why everyone else hasnt figured it out by now, but Daryn is simply a giant troll. Stop encouraging him and maybe he will go away again.

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i was right in what i said, it's very clear. the statement i quoted of his was incorrect. anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would agree. even patrick who hates me would agree that i was right and he was wrong (about that exact statement he made).

[Alobar]

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If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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I don't know why everyone else hasnt figured it out by now, but Daryn is simply a giant troll. Stop encouraging him and maybe he will go away again.

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i was right in what i said, it's very clear. the statement i quoted of his was incorrect. anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would agree. even patrick who hates me would agree that i was right and he was wrong (about that exact statement he made).

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Did I ever say you were wrong?

You're slipping dude...

[RunDownHouse]

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

EDIT: Whatever, not like its this important. Sorry for the hijack.

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If you'll read the link I provided, it gives a range of terminal velocities from various sources.

Try not to be so condescending and insulting in your replies. You have trouble pulling it off, and when you're wrong, it makes you look pretty bad.

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I don't know why everyone else hasnt figured it out by now, but Daryn is simply a giant troll. Stop encouraging him and maybe he will go away again.

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i was right in what i said, it's very clear. the statement i quoted of his was incorrect. anyone that actually knows what they are talking about would agree. even patrick who hates me would agree that i was right and he was wrong (about that exact statement he made).

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Did I ever say you were wrong?

You're slipping dude...

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usually trolling is just saying stuff to elicit some response. i didn't know you could troll while also being correct.

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

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so what's the situation? nobody jumped down anybody's throat.

here's what was said: OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE BOND FELL FASTER THAN THE PLANE! LOL!

and i said, why wouldn't he fall faster?

then swede accuses me of "trying to be witty" (i still don't understand his comment)

i then accused him of trying to be stupid, which in retrospect was not fair, clearly he wasn't trying.

if someone had just accurately depicted the situation, which i am still unclear on, the whole discussion could be resolved quite quickly.

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

EDIT: Whatever, not like its this important. Sorry for the hijack.

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pick out parts of your post? you said:

The fastest Bond can fall is, by definition, his terminal velocity. This is pretty much a constant for humans in free-flight.

which is just incorrect.

[RunDownHouse]

You're right. I meant that the terminal velocity of Bond is more or less insignificant compared to the speed of the plane, since the plane is so much faster. That's not at all the same as "the terminal velocity of Bond is constant."

I tried to clarify later, but I guess I didn't do a good job, or you skimmed/ignored it.

For reference, Swede was saying that, in the film, the plane's engine is running while its pointed downwards.

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

EDIT: Whatever, not like its this important. Sorry for the hijack.

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pick out parts of your post? you said:

The fastest Bond can fall is, by definition, his terminal velocity. This is pretty much a constant for humans in free-flight.

which is just incorrect.

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he said fastest, which means he is not always at that speed

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

EDIT: Whatever, not like its this important. Sorry for the hijack.

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pick out parts of your post? you said:

The fastest Bond can fall is, by definition, his terminal velocity. This is pretty much a constant for humans in free-flight.

which is just incorrect.

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he said fastest, which means he is not always at that speed

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another country heard from. the statement is incorrect. let's get past it instead of trying to prove it's somehow accurate.

[Alobar]

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

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so what's the situation? nobody jumped down anybody's throat.

here's what was said: OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE BOND FELL FASTER THAN THE PLANE! LOL!

and i said, why wouldn't he fall faster?

then swede accuses me of "trying to be witty" (i still don't understand his comment)

i then accused him of trying to be stupid, which in retrospect was not fair, clearly he wasn't trying.

if someone had just accurately depicted the situation, which i am still unclear on, the whole discussion could be resolved quite quickly.

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This prolly has a lot to do with the fact that you spend most of your time trying to make smart ass replys to posts, to elicit arguments so that you can work on your inferiority complex

So when someone sees you make a reply that says "why wouldn't he fall faster?" They don't interpret it as "I havent seen the movie, I don't get what you are talking about, could you explain the situation to me so that I may understand". They see it as you once again just making jackassy remarks and trying to provoke arguments. Which explains the responses you got.

hope this helps

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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Ah, so you decided to jump down another poster's throat without having any frame of reference. And then pick out parts of my posts without understanding the context, leaving you without a proper frame of reference again. Gotcha.

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so what's the situation? nobody jumped down anybody's throat.

here's what was said: OMG, I CAN'T BELIEVE BOND FELL FASTER THAN THE PLANE! LOL!

and i said, why wouldn't he fall faster?

then swede accuses me of "trying to be witty" (i still don't understand his comment)

i then accused him of trying to be stupid, which in retrospect was not fair, clearly he wasn't trying.

if someone had just accurately depicted the situation, which i am still unclear on, the whole discussion could be resolved quite quickly.

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This prolly has a lot to do with the fact that you spend most of your time trying to make smart ass replys to posts, to elicit arguments so that you can work on your inferiority complex

So when someone sees you make a reply that says "why wouldn't he fall faster?" They don't interpret it as "I havent seen the movie, I don't get what you are talking about, could you explain the situation to me so that I may understand". They see it as you once again just making jackassy remarks and trying to provoke arguments. Which explains the responses you got.

hope this helps

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i saw it as a simple question.

i don't try to make "smart ass replies" out of the blue. i read the post, and was like, wtf.. i don't see why he wouldn't fall faster than the plane, then i posed my question.

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I said "pretty much." When you compare the range of speeds for a human to the range of speed for the plane, its fairly narrow. In other words, Bond pointing his body like an arrow will not result in significant gains on the plane.

Now, with that out of the way: do you still maintain that a plane cannot travel towards the ground faster than Bond's terminal velocity?

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like i said before, the situation is very unclear. are you saying the plane is pointed straight down, WITH its engines firing? in other words the plane's thrust is actually pushing it vertically downward towards the earth? why would that be happening?

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The plan was accidentally heading down the runway which ended at a cliff. There was no one driving but the props and engine were running.

[mostsmooth]

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Greedo shoots first in the Special Edition

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FYP

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thats the version ive seen. btw, what the f does it mean? im not a star wars nut, so i never understood.

[B Dids]

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Greedo shoots first in the Special Edition

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thats the version ive seen. btw, what the f does it mean? im not a star wars nut, so i never understood.

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If Greedo shoots first, Han Solo killed him in self defense and is a 100% good guy that all the 12 year olds can love. If he doesn't, Han Solo is a murderer and later we have to feel conflicted about liking him.

Basically George Lucas started sucking, and went so far as to try and retroactively re-suck his older work.

[jedi]

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Greedo shoots first in the Special Edition

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FYP

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thats the version ive seen. btw, what the f does it mean? im not a star wars nut, so i never understood.

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If Greedo shoots first, Han Solo killed him in self defense and is a 100% good guy that all the 12 year olds can love. If he doesn't, Han Solo is a murderer and later we have to feel conflicted about liking him.

Basically George Lucas started sucking, and went so far as to try and retroactively re-suck his older work.

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Original: Han is threatened by Greedo and shoots first, nonchalantly under the table, and flips the bartender a credit as if it'll take care of the mess. He's justified in doing so, as he has a bounty hunter pointing a gun at him, threatening to take his money (and NOT take it to Jabba) or his life.

New version: Han is threatened by Greedo, who shoots first AND MISSES AT POINT BLANK RANGE! Then Han shoots back. Though Han is even more justified than before, this has major suckage compared to the original.

[mostsmooth]

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Greedo shoots first in the Special Edition

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FYP

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thats the version ive seen. btw, what the f does it mean? im not a star wars nut, so i never understood.

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If Greedo shoots first, Han Solo killed him in self defense and is a 100% good guy that all the 12 year olds can love. If he doesn't, Han Solo is a murderer and later we have to feel conflicted about liking him.

Basically George Lucas started sucking, and went so far as to try and retroactively re-suck his older work.

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Original: Han is threatened by Greedo and shoots first, nonchalantly under the table, and flips the bartender a credit as if it'll take care of the mess. He's justified in doing so, as he has a bounty hunter pointing a gun at him, threatening to take his money (and NOT take it to Jabba) or his life.

New version: Han is threatened by Greedo, who shoots first AND MISSES AT POINT BLANK RANGE! Then Han shoots back. Though Han is even more justified than before, this has major suckage compared to the original.

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ok i lied then. i didnt see the special edition of star wars
i saw the special edition of jasbsb when affleck says "that makes as much sense as greedo shooting first" or something to that affect. theres a star wars where greedo shoots first? i guess thats why i never understood afflecks line.
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[mostsmooth]

btw, the end of searching for bobby fischer made no sense. these two kids are supposed to be the next fischers, and the kid doesnt retire? he cant see 5 moves from now hes done? even after he queens he still thinks he is in command. even after josh queens, the kid doesnt even know hes in check? doesnt resign until after josh takes his queen? did he think josh wouldnt take it?
geez

[oneeye13]

there is a scene in the background of braveheart where the actors are clearly just dicking around.

also, the finger-blending/smoking scene in how high. how did that make it into the movie?

[gabbahh]

In regard to Die Hard and the metal detectors:
A Glock 17 contains no metal parts. So does not set it of.
The bullets however do.

[LAGmaniac]

Apocalypse Now

All that crap with Marlon Brando sucked.

[KingCon]

I felt ripped off after the credits started rolling for THE NEVERENDING STORY and it had only been 90 Minutes

When Jason Biggs gets Nadia from American Pie AND the chick from Saving Silverman

[OnlinePokerCoach]

The ending of The Abyss, when the big lame spaceship rises from the deep sea all the way to the surface.

The movie should have instead ended with a typed message from Ed Harris' character to the other survivors saying something like, "you're not going to believe this..."; then fade to credits and leave the rest to our imagination. Better than a big fake looking rubber spaceship... imho.

[Gamblor]

ok.

The way I see it, is that the wing shape (aka aerofoil) to coax air OVER the wings when it is standing upright. A plane is also extremely aerodynamic head on. Thus, when it is flying straight down at terminal velocity, the effect at such a high speed is to push the plane so far away from the cliff face that Bond couldn't hope to get close to it.

Thus, your whole argument is moot.

[daryn]

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ok.

The way I see it, is that the wing shape (aka aerofoil) to coax air OVER the wings when it is standing upright. A plane is also extremely aerodynamic head on. Thus, when it is flying straight down at terminal velocity, the effect at such a high speed is to push the plane so far away from the cliff face that Bond couldn't hope to get close to it.

Thus, your whole argument is moot.

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i agree with this. the "lift" would actually work to push the plane away from the mountainside

[Rushmore]

Not to belabor a point, but yes, I agree with your assessment of the themes involved in Magnolia.

But from a personal standpoint (Atlas Shrugged, etc), I don't care for the final message, and I certainly did not care for it aesthetically.

Anyway, uh, there's that.

The Fan was indeed a turd.

[Rushmore]

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The ending of The Abyss, when the big lame spaceship rises from the deep sea all the way to the surface.

The movie should have instead ended with a typed message from Ed Harris' character to the other survivors saying something like, "you're not going to believe this..."; then fade to credits and leave the rest to our imagination. Better than a big fake looking rubber spaceship... imho.

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Good call.

[Rushmore]

1. How many times can Steve Buscemi run past the same stores as the cops are chasing him?

2. Who shoots Nice Guy Eddie at the end? (Think about it).

[samjjones]

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The ending of The Abyss, when the big lame spaceship rises from the deep sea all the way to the surface.

The movie should have instead ended with a typed message from Ed Harris' character to the other survivors saying something like, "you're not going to believe this..."; then fade to credits and leave the rest to our imagination. Better than a big fake looking rubber spaceship... imho.

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Good call. The ending was completely over the top, and degrades an otherwise solid movie.

[HopeydaFish]

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This one bothers me a lot:

Kill Bill I, The bride and Vernita Green are fighting. Vernita Green is a deadly assasin and she fires at Uma through the box of cereal from 5 feet away and misses her??? WTF? Couldn't Quentin have thought of something plausible?

Does stuff like this bother anyone else?

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there was a toy in the cereal box made of metal that the bullet deflected off

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I believe it was a jagged metal Krusty-O.

[swede123]

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2. Who shoots Nice Guy Eddie at the end? (Think about it).

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I always took it as either Mr. White or Mr. Pink. White shoots Joe, Eddie shoots White. White is wounded but still has time to pop Eddie OR Pink shoots Eddie and makes a run for it (and is gunned down outside).

Swede

[InchoateHand]

This thread got a lot better once you guys shut up about movies.

[youtalkfunny]

This is explained in the director's commentary on the DVD.

White was supposed to, but the blood-filled squib in Penn's shirt exploded prematurely. Time and budget constraints are blamed for not re-shooting--I just think QT screwed up.

Anyone seen "Girl Next Door"? Where she reaches out the car window and somehow grabs his underwear off the road with her 10 foot long arm.

[craig r]

Not to bump this thread again. But, another thing in True Romance (I watched it today again): When Walken shows up and tells Hopper that they purposely robbed the drug dealer, in the original that is true. Slater didn't go to get her clothes like the movie has it. okay..i am done

[man]

in one of the star wars novels someone wrote a short story about how boba fett actually survives and rockets himself out of the pit. I read it about six years ago and can't remember the author or the book, but that is the version of the story I choose to believe. because Boba Fett is for badass.

[man]

I always found the climax in the Royal Tennenbaums (where Chas basically forgives Royal) sort of unbelievable. Yeah, Royal saved Chas' kids, but I can't see Chas just letting him off that easily. He hadn't shown any reasons to love him again.

[UseThePeenEnd]

Gunhandling in almost all movies is for crap. Dudes menace each other with uncocked single action pistols- NOTHING is gonna happen until you pull the hammer back, Mac... Idiots hold handguns one-handed palm down. You can't hit squat like that. Also, folks seen to spend their entire day holding a weapon with their finger on the trigger.

This is all fine when the characters are supposed to be dummies, but characters who are supposedly trained people do all this too.

Also, people get hit with one 9mm bullet and fly backward across the room. Ive seen a guy after surgery who the cops said advanced on and beat the snot out of the shooter after taking 2 9mm hits in the torso.

[esbesb]

The scene in "Speed," an otherwise OK movie, where the bus actually gains altitude to get over the break in the freeway.

[Shilly]

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Jurasic park 3- at the end the marines or something land on the island with tanks and lots of troops with guns, and then they never kill any dinosaurs.

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Obviously, that wasn't a good movie . . . but that cracked me up too. They're a freaking army and they don't kill ONE goddamn dinosaur with their BFGs.

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Has no one mentioned the end where Grant blows into a [censored] raptor skull to save them?

[-Skeme-]

Sin City: Marv breaks through a door, jumps down a staircase while being shot at, lunges feet first through a thick windshield of a moving car, slams into a break wall, repeatedly gets run over by another speeding car, shot at, etc, and he's fine. Later on his female parole officer hits him in the head with her gun and he's completely KOd.

Bullshit.

[Sightless]

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Sin City: Marv breaks through a door, jumps down a staircase while being shot at, lunges feet first through a thick windshield of a moving car, slams into a break wall, repeatedly gets run over by another speeding car, shot at, etc, and he's fine. Later on his female parole officer hits him in the head with her gun and he's completely KOd.

Bullshit.

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as oposed to all the rest of the movie being real...?

[-Skeme-]

Within the realm of the movie, yes.

[Sightless]

How do you know the realm of the movie? Maybe in a realm of the movie a good clean hard hit with a pistol to Marvs skull will cause him to lose conscience?

[MagicMan08]

the movie boogey man, signs....all those movies are all hyped up and had crap endings

[slamdunkpro]

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A Glock 17 contains no metal parts. So does not set it of.

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Try again; the slide, barrel and springs are steel

[BeatOnRiver]

Liar Liar when JIm Carrey lies- when his secretary asks him about a case her friend lost he answers that hed have lost her more, then after a while says, "i didnt understand the question, ask it again, ask it again, when all the while he actually did understand the question.

[JTrout]

TIN CUP-

2 things. First, when Costner bets McCord $100 he can hit it off the shitter and get it on the green. He doesn't get it on the green, but McCord pays off.

McCord said this was caught, but was not corrected because of time and such.
He also said they had already shot it several times because a)Costner sucks, and b) McCord kept putting his hand over his privates during the shot! (I thought they should've kept that in!)

And second, the stupid ending. His whole deal is "I can hit this shot." ok ok.
One of his half-dozen failed efforts carrys the water, lands on the green and rolls up to within a foot of the hole before rolling back off the front of the green into the water! ACK!
But NO!! "I can hit the shot!" Give me a fxcking break!

[BeatOnRiver]

This has to be the clear winner because it goes against the title and the whole movie:

Liar Liar when JIm Carrey lies- when his secretary asks him about a case her friend lost he answers that hed have lost her more, then after a while says, "i didnt understand the question, ask it again, ask it again, when all the while he actually did understand the question.

[-Skeme-]

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How do you know the realm of the movie? Maybe in a realm of the movie a good clean hard hit with a pistol to Marvs skull will cause him to lose conscience?

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The realm of the movie has Marv as an insanely tough and strong motherfucker who can jump through moving car windshields and be patched up with a few bandaids. Being struck with a gun, by one handed woman, should not do completely knock him out.

[Army Eye]

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btw, the end of searching for bobby fischer made no sense. these two kids are supposed to be the next fischers, and the kid doesnt retire? he cant see 5 moves from now hes done? even after he queens he still thinks he is in command. even after josh queens, the kid doesnt even know hes in check? doesnt resign until after josh takes his queen? did he think josh wouldnt take it?
geez

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The fact that the kid missed that stuff is believable because, hell, the kids are blitzing out the moves so quickly. The hyper-fast blitzing of the moves is what is the most implausible thing about this movie IMO (the director really seemed to be taken with this idea, it happened all throughout the movie in what were presumably tournament time-control games).

[Army Eye]

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The ending of The Abyss, when the big lame spaceship rises from the deep sea all the way to the surface.

The movie should have instead ended with a typed message from Ed Harris' character to the other survivors saying something like, "you're not going to believe this..."; then fade to credits and leave the rest to our imagination. Better than a big fake looking rubber spaceship... imho.

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Man I like your ending so much more..

It is a problem with some movies.. they have a great climax which should be an ending, really getting you on an emotional high, but then they don't know when to friggin end! And at the end you walk of the theater thinking "meh" when you should've walked out feeling blown away.

Contact and A.I. are a couple other movies like this.

[slamdunkpro]

Die Hard 2 – The whole premise of the movie was stupid. Gee, terrorists take over a Washington Airport. The planes only have 3 – 4 hours of fuel left. OK fly to Dallas, Miami, New York, Chicago, or any of another 100 airports No, we just keep circling until we run out of fuel and crash.

Castaway – the end. Tom Hanks has lost everything; he tries to deliver the one package that he didn’t open; no one is home. He’s driving out and a hot chick stops and flirts with him. As she drives away he realizes that she is the one with the package. He drives off in the other direction. Reality check – He’d have chased her down and hit it!

Von Ryan’s Express - The Germans have destroyed the rails in front of the train that the prisoners are escaping on right in front of the last tunnel before freedom. There is a catwalk that runs around this mountain. The Germans are still flying around strafing the prisoners. They tell the prisoners to take the exposed catwalk around the mountain. The Germans blow it up. The prisoners then decide to clear and repair the tracks but they have to hurry because the German troop train is coming. Hello – just walk through the tunnel!

Any bomb scene in almost any movie – just pull the blasting cap out of the charge moron.

[swede123]

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The ending of The Abyss, when the big lame spaceship rises from the deep sea all the way to the surface.

The movie should have instead ended with a typed message from Ed Harris' character to the other survivors saying something like, "you're not going to believe this..."; then fade to credits and leave the rest to our imagination. Better than a big fake looking rubber spaceship... imho.

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Man I like your ending so much more..

It is a problem with some movies.. they have a great climax which should be an ending, really getting you on an emotional high, but then they don't know when to friggin end! And at the end you walk of the theater thinking "meh" when you should've walked out feeling blown away.

Contact and A.I. are a couple other movies like this.


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How was Contact's ending anything like this? I really liked the fact that it was open ended, Jodie Foster's character is the only one with any kind of alien experience, and it ends there rather than something cheesy with aliens coming to Earth or whatever.

I do agree with your general point though, and the movie The Last Samurai is a good example of this. If they would have ended the movie when the last samurai make their final charge against the Imperials it would have been lots better than how they ended it. Freakin' Hollywood.

Swede