Screw it, I AM weak. $109

[Chaostracize]

Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Sunday, August 28, 2005
Table Table 10894 (Real Money)
Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: Hero ( $2000 )
Seat 2: RekaSyka7 ( $965 )
Seat 4: keldon ( $3010 )
Seat 6: odell_1120 ( $1645 )
Seat 9: allyo222 ( $1755 )
Seat 10: countmeoutt ( $625 )
Trny:15239407 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9c 9s ]
>You have options at Table 11684 Table!.
odell_1120 raises [450].
allyo222 folds.
countmeoutt is all-In [625]
>You have options at Table 11899 Table!.
Hero folds...

[citanul]

is this hand asking for comments or just publicly punishing yourself?

citanul

[Chaostracize]

Is this fold really that bad?

[citanul]

you have any read at all on either of the two other players? my default play with no read at all would be an overpush. any read at all would be useful though.

[Chaostracize]

Eh... I'm 8 tabling. There wasn't anything crazy going on, so I guess just assume they're the standard 109 fare.

[citanul]

then i push here 100% of the time.

[Chaostracize]

ok, thx... this was split decision and i saw 2 people entered the pot already... realized after i folded it that the push was only 3 BBs.

[kurosh]

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then i push here 100% of the time.

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What about the guy who raised UTG? He has a decent stack. Don't you think he has you dominated or 50/50 a large portion of the time?

[citanul]

he's going to have me dominated sometimes, but he's going to fold his 50/50s a lot of the time, and he's going to call with his 50/50s sometimes. if i'm playing this hand, i likely have a read on the original raiser. many players in his seat will fold TT, but probably not JJ+, will fold AQ- KQ-. and hey, sometimes you will get called by 88- who knows.

if i have a large amount of respect for the open raiser, i'll probably just fold here.

citanul

Do a lot of players really fold AQ and TT UTG here? Myself, 6 handed with the blinds and stack sizes as they are I autopush both those hands as well as 99, am I wrong to do so?

[Scuba Chuck]

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then i push here 100% of the time.

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What about the guy who raised UTG? He has a decent stack. Don't you think he has you dominated or 50/50 a large portion of the time?

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The only reason he possibly/likely folds here is because he has a decent stack. Although, I do agree with your conerns about an UTG raiser.

[Chaostracize]

I guess my biggest problem is that there's little fold equity to my push. And after a raise-push, I don't know how comfortable I can be with my hand. I like stealing with crap so much better than definitely getting money in with a moderately strong hand.

[citanul]

you'vegot a ton of folding equity, if your opponent doesn't have a great hand. he's got plenty behind if he chooses to fold, and just because he's raised doesn't mean he wants to be all in. consider the amount of strength that has been shown by the two all in players.

citanul

[Scuba Chuck]

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I guess my biggest problem is that there's little fold equity to my push. And after a raise-push, I don't know how comfortable I can be with my hand. I like stealing with crap so much better than definitely getting money in with a moderately strong hand.

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Well, that's the dilemma. One misread in your post. I think you underestimate how much fold equity you have here. Put yourself in UTG's shoes. Your raise UTG with AQ. Behind you two people go allin. You've got a nice healthy stack if you fold. What's your line?