Another set that I didnt get maximum value with

[jon462]

With the a boat on the flop im obviously not worried about straight draw. Should I have reraised the bet and raise on the flop, reading it for trip 4s? I was hoping he had 67 <g> but the straight possibilities obviously scared villain. I learned my lesson from the last one and bet the river, but im wondering if I might not have stacked him had I shown more agression on the flop (but then he might have folded an overpair fearing the 4 himself??)
#Game No : 2611284926
***** Hand History for Game 2611284926 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $50 Buy-in + $5 Entry Fee Trny:15232510 Level:2 Blinds(15/30) - Sunday, August 28, 05:21:22 EDT 2005
Table Table 11640 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 7: JaredLK ( $315 )
Seat 9: Giga_debt ( $1085 )
Seat 6: mattylou123 ( $2920 )
Seat 1: strflush428 ( $710 )
Seat 10: Sleggo ( $1690 )
Seat 4: sc0t1 ( $525 )
Seat 2: scottish75 ( $1230 )
Seat 8: ACEHIGH13 ( $1525 )
Trny:15232510 Level:2
Blinds(15/30)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Giga_debt [ 5c 5h ]
Sleggo folds.
strflush428 folds.
scottish75 calls [30].
sc0t1 folds.
mattylou123 calls [30].
JaredLK folds.
>You have options at Table 12122 Table!.
ACEHIGH13 folds.
Giga_debt checks.
** Dealing Flop ** [ 4c, 5s, 4h ]
Giga_debt checks.
scottish75 checks.
mattylou123 bets [55].
Giga_debt calls [55].
scottish75 raises [110].
mattylou123 folds.
Giga_debt calls [55].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3c ]
Giga_debt checks.
scottish75 checks.
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
>You have options at Table 12122 Table!.
Giga_debt bets [200].
scottish75 calls [200].
Giga_debt shows [ 5c, 5h ] a full house, Fives full of fours.
scottish75 doesn't show [ Qd, 4d ] three of a kind, fours.
Giga_debt wins 780 chips from the main pot with a full house, Fives full of fours.
Game #2611287552 starts.

If you ever make a big hand, you should never be checking it. Unless you are 100% sure they will bluff their whole stack at you if you show weakness, you need to keep bulding the pot with medium sized bets to maxamize value. If he dosnet call, then he probebly has complete [censored] and woudltn of paid u anything anyways. Bet early and often!

[Newt_Buggs]

that check miniraise on the flop is almost always going to be a 4, especially since you already know where three of the four 5s are. Knowing this, you've failed if you haven't gotten all of your chips in as soon as possible. I might just push over the top on the flop instead of the smooth calling and ending the action. Yes it will be a huge, obvious overbet, but its going to take a weak kicker and a good player to fold to your push. Another option would be to just call and open push the turn.

[jon462]

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that check miniraise on the flop is almost always going to be a 4, especially since you already know where three of the four 5s are. Knowing this, you've failed if you haven't gotten all of your chips in as soon as possible. I might just push over the top on the flop instead of the smooth calling and ending the action. Yes it will be a huge, obvious overbet, but its going to take a weak kicker and a good player to fold to your push. Another option would be to just call and open push the turn.

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i was thinking afterwards this is exactly what i should have done, although a 300-400 raise wouldnt have been bad either.

[Myst]

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that check miniraise on the flop is almost always going to be a 4, especially since you already know where three of the four 5s are. Knowing this, you've failed if you haven't gotten all of your chips in as soon as possible. I might just push over the top on the flop instead of the smooth calling and ending the action. Yes it will be a huge, obvious overbet, but its going to take a weak kicker and a good player to fold to your push. Another option would be to just call and open push the turn.

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What he said. If you read your opponent for a 4, make him PAYYYYYY.