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UOPokerPlayer
08-28-2005, 04:05 AM
I'm so happy.

Villian is solid and generally unknown.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP ($92.65)
Hero ($97.50)
Button ($97.50)
SB ($116.15)
BB ($49.90)
UTG ($107.29)

Preflop: Hero is CO with A/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $5</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, SB (poster) calls $4.50, BB calls $4, UTG folds.

Flop: ($16) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to $40</font>, BB folds, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $66

DaveduFresne
08-28-2005, 04:27 AM
I've seen KK played exactly the way villain played his hand...why are you happy with yourself?

Macquarie
08-28-2005, 04:33 AM
[ QUOTE ]
I've seen KK played exactly the way villain played his hand...why are you happy with yourself?

[/ QUOTE ]

or QQ or JJ probably too.

pokerjoker
08-28-2005, 04:34 AM
Against an unknown he could be

1. semi bluffing a straight draw
2. Have tt-kk
3. ~5% have total air
4. ~20% have top pair.

The remaining hands beat you. Do you have the ~60% chance of winning that you need to push here?

Unless theres an uber tight read on villan I vote push.

Macquarie
08-28-2005, 04:38 AM
[ QUOTE ]
Against an unknown he could be

1. semi bluffing a straight draw
2. Have tt-kk
3. ~5% have total air
4. ~20% have top pair.

The remaining hands beat you. Do you have the ~60% chance of winning that you need to push here?

Unless theres an uber tight read on villan I vote push.

[/ QUOTE ]

If he has a straight draw, it better be a gutshot. Push must be the worst option here. We have to keep JJ/QQ/KK in. Better to flat call and see what he does on the turn. We don't fear free cards, so we might as well let him bluff off more chips or commit himself with TP or overpair.

I'd have bet a little more on the flop; you look weak, increasing the chance of someone playing back at you and putting you to tough decisions.

DaveduFresne
08-28-2005, 05:07 AM
I like the flat call also. Its really a tough hand to play without a better read. I know plenty of players online that are tight enough that I could fold to the reraise.

But folding to a reraise with a board thats pretty good for pocket aces is pretty weak tight in my book. I'm sure most players that play with me consider me pretty tight, but if I see a weak flop bet and I feel I have a good chance of taking the pot down, I might make a reraise like that with air or with something as weak as a gutshot. Not that I do it often, but even a tightie like me occasionally moves on a tight player when he senses weakness.

Getting back to the hand in question, there are certain boards and situations where you can fold Aces on the flop to a single raise. Without a much stronger read on villain, this is not one of them.

Big_Jim
08-28-2005, 05:09 AM
You nit.

Call the flop, move all in on the turn, without a reed.

pokerjoker
08-28-2005, 05:20 AM
[ QUOTE ]
You nit.

Call the flop, move all in on the turn, without a reed.

[/ QUOTE ]

ya...i like this a bit more than my line....really anything but fold.

amoeba
08-28-2005, 05:22 AM
very very few people do this with the straight draw here.

whether he would do this with KK-JJ, I don't know.

whittiphil
08-28-2005, 06:19 AM
I think people are giving you too much of a hard time. IT's marginal... but he could easily have 99. I would call, but I think your line is ok.

NYCNative
08-28-2005, 06:40 AM
Villain is screaming he has a set but without a read, I cannot lay this down at these levels based on past experiences. He could have any overpair here and you know, I would not at all be shocked if he had A9. That said, getting married to big pairs is a leak in my game.

maybedinero
08-28-2005, 06:52 AM
Hi Satan /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

OK, the hand converter seems to be f*cked...

***** Hand History for Game 260183XXXX *****
$25 PL Texas Hold'em - Friday, August 26, 16:52:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 37318 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Villain ( $25.56 )
Seat 2: fizz1le ( $23.90 )
Seat 3: DUDE2929 ( $40.13 )
Seat 4: maybedinero ( $24.30 )
Seat 6: smp0067 ( $13.20 )
Seat 8: MrRockFish2u ( $12.29 )
Seat 10: egget85 ( $11.50 )
Seat 5: Paul1980 ( $20.80 )
Seat 9: psawork ( $24 )
Seat 7: Luba2004 ( $13.60 )
Luba2004 posts small blind [$0.10].
MrRockFish2u posts big blind [$0.25].
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to maybedinero [ Ac Ad ]
psawork folds.
egget85 folds.
Villain raises [$0.50].
&gt;You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
fizz1le folds.
maybedinero calls [$0.50].
&gt;You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
Paul1980 folds.
Luba2004 folds.
MrRockFish2u folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, 4h, 9c ]
Villain bets [$0.25].
&gt;You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
maybedinero raises [$1.25].
Villain raises [$4.85].
Villain: set
maybedinero calls [$3.85].
** Dealing Turn ** [ 8d ]
Villain bets [$11].
maybedinero: omg
&gt;You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
maybedinero is all-In.
Villain: pair the board
Villain: so this fish doesn't win with his str8
Villain calls [$7.70].
** Dealing River ** [ Jc ]
Villain shows [ 9s, 9h ] a full house, Nines full of jacks.
&gt;You have options at Table 37357 Table!.
maybedinero doesn't show [ Ac, Ad ] two pairs, aces and jacks.
Villain wins $46.55 from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of jacks.