$20 PP QQ with all in raiser and 2 callers [Archive]

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Turk

08-28-2005, 01:37 AM

Level two I have QQ one all in raiser and two call behind, whats my line here?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP1 (t1055)
MP2 (t605)
MP3 (t100)
CO (t1205)
Hero (t775)
SB (t640)
BB (t950)
UTG (t655)
UTG+1 (t735)
UTG+2 (t1280)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG raises to t655 (All-In), 1 fold, UTG+2 calls t655, MP1 calls t655, 6 folds.

Flop: (t2010) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (3 players, 1 all-in)
UTG+2 checks, MP1 bets t400 (All-In), UTG+2 calls t400.

Turn: (t2810) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

River: (t2810) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players, 2 all-in)

Final Pot: t2810

roma12

08-28-2005, 01:39 AM

Fold

08-28-2005, 02:02 AM

I think you are being 200% results oriented. An all in and 2 callers means your chances of winning this pot are horrible, even if your hand is best preflop. Muck this and move on.

psyduck

08-28-2005, 06:48 AM

I wouldn't fold QQ pf in a 30+3 or lower limit 99% of the time.

I shove preflop. Isn't it possible for you to see AK, AQ and JJ downwards from all 3 of these guys? This is a 20+2.

ghostface

08-28-2005, 06:51 AM

Holy crap. FOLD!

Myst

08-28-2005, 07:01 AM

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I shove preflop. Isn't it possible for you to see AK, AQ and JJ downwards from all 3 of these guys? This is a 20+2.

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Yeah, and thats BEST case scenario. Fold.

ghostface

08-28-2005, 07:07 AM

Lets say you are playing $25 NL, and someone open pushes with about 75BB. Are you calling with QQ?

psyduck

08-28-2005, 07:10 AM

wtf? everyone replying fold?!

What if this were a 10+1?

What if there was just one caller that called the initial 20X push?

Edit: not trying to be picky or anything, but I'm trying to figure out whether you guys think this decision is close or not. I mean, I would DEFINITELY push this in a 10+1 (although it's been really long since I played one of those), and I would DEFINITELY push if there was just one caller.

ghostface

08-28-2005, 07:19 AM

Well it is possible to get a read on someone by the second level. Unless I had a read that these guys particularly liked playing big aces or some crap I'd be inclined to fold. You could call the push, win the pot 30% of the time and coast to the money, or for me, take my 40% ITM and coast into the money.

You decide.

psyduck

08-28-2005, 07:34 AM

Damn well, I dunno at this point. However, I'm still quite confused on where to draw the line. Like I said, I would easily push at a 10+1 or if there was one less caller. I guess this situation is unique (and rare) that there are two callers of the all-in.

Also Ghostface, you're in like every. [censored]. thread I'm reading. Even ones in the limit forum /images/graemlins/tongue.gif