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Steve
08-26-2005, 06:13 PM
Pokerstove says it was 51%/49% on the flop. Should I have bet at that flop? If so, what to do when raised? I hate flipping a coin on the first hand of a tourney.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Hero (t800)
BB (t800)
UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 (t800)
CO (t800)
Button (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Button calls t15, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) K/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t65</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP1 raises to t130</font>, Button folds, Hero goes all in, MP1 calls.

Turn: (t1660) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

River: (t1660) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Final Pot: t1660

Steve
08-26-2005, 06:14 PM
Oh BTW villian had KsQd

unreal_nh
08-26-2005, 06:15 PM
then dont

08-26-2005, 06:19 PM
No you should not have bet at the flop.

Steve
08-26-2005, 06:24 PM
so just check and fold the flop? Villian will probably bet 60.

08-26-2005, 06:36 PM
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so just check and fold the flop? Villian will probably bet 60.

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Yes, unless he offers better pot/implied odds.

lastchance
08-26-2005, 06:48 PM
This is terrible advice, when you've got 10+ outs to a very good hand.

You need to find a way to either semi-bluff or see a river.

Betting and 3-betting could work here, but I think checking is the better line, going over the top if there's enough in the pot to take down, or calling and betting the turn to freeze people up, or another different line.

08-26-2005, 06:53 PM
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This is terrible advice, when you've got 10+ outs to a very good hand.

You need to find a way to either semi-bluff or see a river.

Betting and 3-betting could work here, but I think checking is the better line, going over the top if there's enough in the pot to take down, or calling and betting the turn to freeze people up, or another different line.

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Great line if you are playing with good players. Terrible line on a PP $33 unless you are interested in gambling the whole tourney on an early coin flip.

45suited
08-26-2005, 06:55 PM
I could easily check / fold this flop early in a SNG. If you're playing a low level guy, you probably have very little FE if he has a K.

For this reason, I very much do not like the C/R all-in here. Keep the pot small, call a small bet, don't go crazy with this hand on the flop.

08-26-2005, 07:00 PM
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I could easily check / fold this flop early in a SNG. If you're playing a low level guy, you probably have very little FE if he has a K.

For this reason, I very much do not like the C/R all-in here. Keep the pot small, call a small bet, don't go crazy with this hand on the flop.

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My thoughts exactly.

Scuba Chuck
08-26-2005, 07:43 PM
Well, I think your line is a +$/hr line, vs +ROI line. Anyway, if I were in this hand, I'm certain I'd check call, and see a turn. I'm probably done after the turn if I don't improve. If this is an MTT, I'm certain I'd play differently, but this is an SNG.

Now, if you had better position, this would be a little more interesting decision on how to play this hand.

HelmetCrash
08-26-2005, 09:35 PM
This is how I play this hand.