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Biggle10
08-26-2005, 02:01 PM
(Long time lurker, new poster)

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Preflop: Hero is CO with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP3 calls, Hero calls, Button calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, MP3 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP3 folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (8.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 10.25 BB
Dariel86
08-26-2005, 02:03 PM
Why the hell aren't you raising that turn? Really weak by you IMO
SeaEagle
08-26-2005, 02:04 PM
Huh? Did you put him on exactly KK?

Raise the turn.
Sarge85
08-26-2005, 02:04 PM
WTF?

Bet/Raise/Re-Raise Flop
Bet/Raise/Re-Raise Turn
Bet/Raise/Re-Raise River

Sarge/images/graemlins/diamond.gif
08-26-2005, 02:06 PM
I am definitely raising the turn. I am also capping to a reraise and depending on my read of the villian possibly just calling the river.
peterchi
08-26-2005, 02:07 PM
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Monsters under the bed?

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yes

Fold pre-flop because there aren't enough callers.

I'd 3-bet the flop.

As is, definitely raise the turn. If he 3-bets, I'd cap and then call the river if he still bets.

There are many many hands besides KK that he could reasonably have here. And if he has 66, well [censored] that.
jskills
08-26-2005, 02:18 PM
Please raise the turn and don't stop betting for the rest of the hand.

No reason to fear 66 here.

KK, although a possibility, is a lot less likely than AK.
MainEvent
08-26-2005, 02:20 PM
I haven't read the replies yet but here we go...

Fold pre-flop unless the table is extremely loose and passive.

Flop: 3 bet seems like a good option, especially if you are likely to chicken out on a raise with a turn spade or king. Which seems very likely that you would chicken out.

Turn: Cap

River: Bet if checked to, call if bet into. Bet/call a CR.
Harv72b
08-26-2005, 02:32 PM
I routinely limp suited connectors second in from the CO. Of course, I also routinely raise &amp; cap for value when I flop trips and turn a full house with them.

I shudder to think how many bets you missed here if he was holding something like A/images/graemlins/spade.gifKx, AA, or worse yet, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif. And he's holding one of those hands (or something else that he'll pay off with) far more often than he's got KK or 66.
callmedonnie
08-26-2005, 02:58 PM
Same as what most everyone else said. I fold preflop. If you slowplay flop it should only be to get in tons of bets on the turn.
ReadyEddie
08-26-2005, 03:07 PM
Yeah same as everyone said yada yada....

The only question that should be discussed about this hand is do we raise the flop or wait until the turn?


Since it's HU on the flop we always raise for value in situations like this? or do we call and get him on bigger streets?

I personally like 3 betting the flop, because if the turn comes something like Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif i wouldn't feel confident putting 3 bets in.
08-26-2005, 04:57 PM
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Yeah same as everyone said yada yada....

The only question that should be discussed about this hand is do we raise the flop or wait until the turn?


Since it's HU on the flop we always raise for value in situations like this? or do we call and get him on bigger streets?

I personally like 3 betting the flop, because if the turn comes something like Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif i wouldn't feel confident putting 3 bets in.

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I don't see preflop raisers checkraising the flop with spades here too often, so I wouldn't be too worried about a /images/graemlins/spade.gif on the turn.

Which is why I would cap the flop. You may not get a chance to get those bets later if the /images/graemlins/spade.gif does fall and he goes into c/c.