76s on the button

[private joker]

Early in the session, no steady reads. Open-limper seems to be the loosest/worst player at the table.

Standard? Terrible? Meh?

Party Poker 5/10 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, CO calls, Hero calls, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, CO checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, BB folds, CO folds.

Turn: (3 BB) Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero caps</font>, SB calls.

River: (11 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13 BB

[baronzeus]

standard

river is a crying call

[Cancuk]

is this standard...specifically the turn???
once the three bet hits, you have to think that he thinks that you have a king, and therefore he has trip kings beat. so, a flush or boat. since you have a low flush, i would just call down after the threebet.
correct me if i'm wrong.

cheers.

[baronzeus]

Morons on party 3bet a ton of kings there, so I cap a ton of flushes there.

When he leads the river it's a crying call.

[bank]

I fold this preflop even on the button. Is this wrong?

[Lmn55d]

i'm limping this behind the "worst/loosest player on the table" unless the blinds are v. aggro.

[zephed]

If you had a read, would you lay this down on the river?

[sthief09]

I would raise preflop and probably not cap the turn unless he's really overaggro or if you know he wouldn't play diamonds like that on the flop

[sthief09]

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Morons on party 3bet a ton of kings there, so I cap a ton of flushes there.

When he leads the river it's a crying call.

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his equity is still not very good on the turn. if he's ahead he's easily beaten (K has 10 outs and if he has a diamond that's another 7) and if he's behind he's drawing dead. if it was the river I'd be more apt to cap it but when there are more cards to come it has to be considered unless your hand if unbeatable is ahead and drawing dead if behind

[baronzeus]

at least you can't get 5bet on the turn /images/graemlins/smile.gif

i think 5 bets on the turn/river is decent

[sthief09]

the turn/river is not a street. on the turn there are 4 board cards. on the river there are 5. but then again he could be an idiot with the A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif and will pay off a river bet if he misses.

he didn't say what type of player he is. he just said bad. bad can mean a lot of things

[bobbyi]

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he didn't say what type of player he is. he just said bad.

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No he didn't. The only thing we know about the villain is that he is not the worst player at the table.

[giddyup]

you raise 76s preflop with only 1 limper? maybe this is why i hover at 14% PFR. what other questionable hands do you raise with?

[imported_stealthcow]

i've talked a lot with drG and he raises this preflop too. i like raising it, esp at 10/20 where players are a bit more agg and give more credit, but i think a limp behidn on the turn is cool.

i dont like capping the turn, i dont mind calling the river.

stealthcow-

[whodaman]

i like it, if he is bad, i cap this everytime without a read that he is passive

[private joker]

I got lucky and he was totally full of crap with 53o for 3 pair. But I still don't think I played the hand optimally. It's hard to say if the cap is correct -- I think he could be 3-betting trip Ks a lot, and it's hard to put me on a flush, plus I'd like to charge any higher diamonds from drawing out. And I think calling the river is the only possible play.

I'm willing to listen to arguments for raising PF, because limping always feels weird, especially on 6-max, and especially with suited connectors after just one limper. Unless 2 people are already in the pot, I'm almost always playing raise-or-fold PF.

[MarkD]

I don't understand raising pre-flop here. I don't feel that iniative and isolation is worth two bets in this spot and would pre-fer to play it for one.

I'll listen but atm I don't like it.

[danzasmack]

i like a preflop raise mainly because it gives you a better chance of being HU with the worst player at the table.

[MarkD]

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i like a preflop raise mainly because it gives you a better chance of being HU with the worst player at the table.

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With 7 high. Come on now.

[sthief09]

it's a decent ahnd and I'd probably rather raise in this spot than open raise on the button with it.

[sthief09]

if he never folds then true. if he folds a little then I like it

[bugstud]

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i like a preflop raise mainly because it gives you a better chance of being HU with the worst player at the table.

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With 7 high. Come on now.

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this is the worst hand I would iso with. probably 76s+ JTo+
44+ or so.

[RunDownHouse]

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i like a preflop raise mainly because it gives you a better chance of being HU with the worst player at the table.

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HU with no showdown value doesn't interest me that much, especially if "bad" is "always goes to showdown" bad, as it frequently is.