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08-25-2005, 07:19 PM
No reads on villan, he just came to the table, I have been in the top 10 for over 30 hands now, this is a 5.50 rebuy on stars. I dont remember the average but i think theirs about 50 people left at this point.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t12000 (8 handed) pokerhand.org hand converter (http://www.pokerhand.org)

Hero (t384788)
Button (t212918)
SB (t467224)
BB (t80996)
UTG (t355908)
UTG+1 (t76034)
MP1 (t129651)
MP2 (t306351)

Preflop: Hero is CO with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t36000</font>, Button calls t36000, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t76200) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t50000</font>, Button calls t50000.

Turn: (t176200) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, Button bets 48000,
HERO??

Final Pot: t176200

08-25-2005, 07:43 PM
Sometimes you just know your beat and you have to lay it down. Poker is about everything else but the cards.

08-25-2005, 07:45 PM
Fold.

He called the large flop bet. I think he has something. I doubt he is calling that bet and then betting the turn with a holding like Ace-Jack. He didn't re-raise pre-flop so I think pocket Kings, Jacks and Aces unlikely.

I thought maybe he was on a flush draw with the Ace of Spades but you have the Queen of Spades, and the King and Jack of Spades is on the board. This only leaves the 10 spades as a possibility to go with his ace, but this is unlikely.

No this looks most likely Ace-King to me. Or at the least he has a king. Fold.

Your continuation bet was too big I think. If you'd made it smaller you could have thrown this hand away easier or could have made a larger bet on the turn and tried to scare him off or find out for sure. (If you bet small on the flop and then gradually increase the turn bet and then the river they think you have a monster and are trying to slowly take their chips).

08-25-2005, 07:46 PM
Whats villans holdings to make this fold?



How much of a smaller of a raise should I make to A) find out where I am at, and not give the draws good odds?

Tailgunner
08-26-2005, 09:02 AM
There's no point in a check-raise, since a bet already commits him to the pot. If I'm getting my chips in I'd rather open push and hope to steal it if he's got the king. I think if you're checking the turn here you're already prepared to get away from the hand. Judging by his play thus far I'd guess he has that king. Lay it down.

08-29-2005, 09:35 PM
Okay i considered folding on the turn, but i desided against it. I went with my gut instinct that villan does not have a king. The reason he does not have a king is because I WOULD ASSUME that if he had
AK he is reraising me all im
QK is unlikely because I have 2 of the 4 queens.
KJ does not seem likely BUT does seem like the most POSSIBLE hand villan has that beats me, but i considered that villan would not make such a call preflop with a medicore hand like that.

So I reraised all in with my QQ on the turn, villan instantly called me with AJ, and went unimproved for the loss.