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bawcerelli
08-24-2005, 08:12 PM
Read was that villian was decent.


Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t60 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Button (t960)
SB (t1385)
BB (t1375)
UTG (t1925)
UTG+1 (t3385)
Hero (t3395)
MP2 (t1260)
MP3 (t1175)
CO (t140)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t60, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t60, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to t120</font>, SB calls t90, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls t60, Hero calls t60.

Flop: (t540) T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t250</font>, Button folds, SB calls t250, UTG folds.

Turn: (t1040) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t275</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB raises to t550</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1865

Roland32
08-24-2005, 08:20 PM
Yeah if your going to follow through on the CB then u need to bet about twice that

bawcerelli
08-24-2005, 08:24 PM
yeah the problem is I felt he was a decent player. so when he called me on the flop i was 85% sure i was beat. but when the turn hit, i couldn't bring myself to check fold, so under the pressure of the moment i made a p^%#y bet. This is a clear case of checking and folding right, given my read?

lorinda
08-24-2005, 08:28 PM
If this is a lower limit game, I take the view that if I'm playing for set value then they have to actually convince me that I'm winning before I put any more chips in the pot.

I'm quite happy to just not care after I missed the flop, even though there's some chance that I'm in front.

Certainly if I fire on the flop and get called, which I may do on occasion, I'm giving up on the turn, I just like my 3400 stack too much to try to give it away chasing marginal pots.

Lori

bawcerelli
08-24-2005, 08:31 PM
i normally wouldn't fire into this board on the flop either but there were two reasons why I did:

A: The two hands I'd shown down were AKs and a raise in LP with 99, caught top set, checked to river where villian was induced to bluff his whole stack against my rivered boat.

B: my stack was large enough to peel off a half pot sized bet to take it down on the flop.

normally I'd muck in this situation.

jt1
08-24-2005, 08:58 PM
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If this is a lower limit game, I take the view that if I'm playing for set value then they have to actually convince me that I'm winning before I put any more chips in the pot.

I'm quite happy to just not care after I missed the flop, even though there's some chance that I'm in front.

Certainly if I fire on the flop and get called, which I may do on occasion, I'm giving up on the turn, I just like my 3400 stack too much to try to give it away chasing marginal pots.



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This easier said than done. When the pot is this big and the one player left to act probably just has overcards then I can't help but fire a pot size bet up. Hero has to think he'll take down the pot most of the time if he just throws one big bet out there.