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schwza
08-24-2005, 10:52 AM
button is a little on aggro side post-flop. the limp is not suspicious.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t100 (5 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

BB (t2735)
UTG (t1775)
MP (t985)
Button (t1090)
Hero (t1415)

Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls t100, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t300) 3/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP bets t100</font>, hero?

schwza
08-24-2005, 05:04 PM
ok, i c/r'ed all-in.

now do people want to post in this thread?

durron597
08-24-2005, 05:05 PM
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ok, i c/r'ed all-in.

now do people want to post in this thread?

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Standard

schwza
08-24-2005, 05:06 PM
do you like the c/r instead of a lead?

wildzer0
08-24-2005, 05:07 PM
I think checkraising to ~400 and fold if MP pushes isn't a bad line. If he calls, I push a non-club turn.

pooh74
08-24-2005, 05:08 PM
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do you like the c/r instead of a lead?

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I like the C/R here bc its unraised. Obviously if raised PF you're not there w/ JQo...

i likey

pooh74
08-24-2005, 05:09 PM
Why is MP1 limping here? Any reads?

Hornacek
08-24-2005, 05:12 PM
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ok, i c/r'ed all-in.

now do people want to post in this thread?

[/ QUOTE ]c/r all in seems a bit steep... i'd raise to 300 or so.

durron597
08-24-2005, 05:13 PM
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do you like the c/r instead of a lead?

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Yes, you likely have the best hand, and you want to get more chips in the pot before you push.

pooh74
08-24-2005, 05:16 PM
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I think checkraising to ~400 and fold if MP pushes isn't a bad line. If he calls, I push a non-club turn.

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So if MP calls youre pushing a non-club turn? Completely disagree.

I dont see MP calling a 300 raise with a flush draw. He'll either fold, or repush. In fact, if he just calls, then a club turn might be your only hope of winning the hand, but its unlikely he'll just call here...if he's got a set or overpair or AQ etc...he'll push this draws out. If he's drawing himself, he doesnt have the odds to call so he'll fold or reraise hoping to make you lay it down while also getting 2 cards to his draw in the event he's called.

schwza
08-24-2005, 05:19 PM
i think a flush draw calls significantly more often than pushes.

bigt439
08-24-2005, 05:26 PM
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i think a flush draw calls significantly more often than pushes.

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I agree completely. I also don't like any of wildzer's advice. Raising to fold to an mp push is junk on this board, and folding on a club turn is ridiculous too with the size of the pot. The only reason you might advocate raising to something like 450 is so you could maybe fold if bb came to life. The only reason this could work is because a raise to 450 doesn't give up much to mp because you're probably getting allin on the turn regardless. I like how you played it, but I only see benefits by raising to 450 and no downside. Right now you're ahead of mp like 95% of the time. If he pushes over you it gets close, but you're still ahead of him close to 40 or 50% making it an easy call.