When will the cold streak end?

[Wevie]

***** Hand History for Game 2589110172 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:15118111 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Wednesday, August 24, 09:40:21 EDT 2005
Table Table 11530 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 4: HERO ( $556 )
Seat 10: poker26111 ( $565 )
Seat 3: rommiepoker ( $901 )
Seat 2: FRusso ( $1375 )
Seat 9: ebryantsmon ( $899 )
Seat 6: sloNik68 ( $3704 )
Trny:15118111 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ts Th ]
HERO is all-In [556]
sloNik68 folds.
ebryantsmon calls [556].
poker26111 folds.
FRusso folds.
rommiepoker folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Jh, Qc, 3h ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 6c ]
** Dealing River ** [ 9h ]
HERO shows [ Ts, Th ] a pair of tens.
ebryantsmon shows [ Qd, Ac ] a pair of queens.


#Game No : 2589053479
***** Hand History for Game 2589053479 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15117819 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Wednesday, August 24, 09:08:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 39804 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: HERO ( $1000 )
Seat 4: Merle98223 ( $3435 )
Seat 5: mattnash ( $1645 )
Seat 6: cams1485 ( $1920 )
Trny:15117819 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7c Ac ]
Merle98223 folds.
mattnash raises [400].
cams1485 folds.
HERO is all-In [800]
mattnash calls [600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 7d, Qc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
mattnash shows [ Qd, Jd ] a flush, ace high.
HERO shows [ 7c, Ac ] two pairs, aces and sevens.
mattnash wins 2100 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high.

#Game No : 2589051252
***** Hand History for Game 2589051252 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15117815 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Wednesday, August 24, 09:07:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 39797 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: HERO ( $890 )
Seat 5: BigDaveRN ( $590 )
Seat 4: Nucifraga ( $1165 )
Seat 6: santa49 ( $2075 )
Seat 10: namlung97 ( $1620 )
Seat 8: senorstan ( $730 )
Seat 1: BBBungle ( $930 )
Trny:15117815 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qc Qs ]
>You have options at Table 39804 Table!.
Nucifraga calls [100].
BigDaveRN folds.
santa49 raises [225].
senorstan folds.
namlung97 folds.
BBBungle folds.
HERO is all-In [790]
Nucifraga folds.
>You have options at Table 39804 Table!.
santa49 calls [665].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Ts, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
santa49 shows [ 9c, 9h ] a full house, Nines full of threes.
HERO shows [ Qc, Qs ] two pairs, queens and threes.
santa49 wins 1930 chips from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of threes.
HERO finished in seventh place.
HERO has left the table.



I tried to get the convertor to work, any tips there?

Four days = ITM 20% ROI -67%

I'm done for 10 days after this.

[tigerite]

Come on, hand 1 is standard car crash poker, you both did the right thing. (Actually no. He should have re-pushed. But I digress) Hand 2 you may as well stop-and-go, he ain't folding to the push. (Though when you get to that flop, you might as well check-raise all in. Result will be the same though) Hand 3 again I'm not sure he played it all that badly. Just happens sometimes. Suck it up. It'll make you a better player in the long run.

[Hornacek]

isn't this something some of us see every day?

that ROI is horrendous, but variance man, variance. get used to it?

[TheNoodleMan]

keep posting bad beats, it really makes the rest of us want to help you.

I've been on a real cold spell recently at the 10+1 also, some of it was horrible play on my part, but it gets frustrating when you lose almost every coin flip situation and even get busted as a 66% favorite half the time. I haven't been playing poker for too long so I don't know how much of it is variance and how much is quality of play, but I've gone 11 SNG's straight without placing in the money followed by 6 SNG's straight of placing 1st(That was before the cold spell heh). I'm just going over these to see if there were things I did right or wrong.

[downtown]

Though nobody is going to give you sympathy for your bad beats, maybe you can step down a level or to what your comfortable with so that these normal beats don't affect your decisions so much. I noticed that you posted hands from both 33s and 11s. Why not just play 11s for a while until you regain your confidence?

I've been rebuilding a spent bankroll, and had to drop back to the 11s when I went through a horrible spell at the 22s, and now I'm ready to go back up to the 33s or 55s, where I was before I ever spent my bankroll on fast times and memories that I will look back on and laugh. No shame in dropping down and finding holes in your game, and most importantly rebuilding your confidence.

[GtrHtr]

[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2589053479
***** Hand History for Game 2589053479 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15117819 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Wednesday, August 24, 09:08:51 EDT 2005
Table Table 39804 (Real Money)
Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 7: HERO ( $1000 )
Seat 4: Merle98223 ( $3435 )
Seat 5: mattnash ( $1645 )
Seat 6: cams1485 ( $1920 )
Trny:15117819 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 7c Ac ]
Merle98223 folds.
mattnash raises [400].
cams1485 folds.
HERO is all-In [800]
mattnash calls [600].
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, 7d, Qc ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 5d ]
** Dealing River ** [ 5s ]
mattnash shows [ Qd, Jd ] a flush, ace high.
HERO shows [ 7c, Ac ] two pairs, aces and sevens.
mattnash wins 2100 chips from the main pot with a flush, ace high.


[/ QUOTE ]

calling here is pretty bad IMO.


[ QUOTE ]
#Game No : 2589051252
***** Hand History for Game 2589051252 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:15117815 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Wednesday, August 24, 09:07:34 EDT 2005
Table Table 39797 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 2: HERO ( $890 )
Seat 5: BigDaveRN ( $590 )
Seat 4: Nucifraga ( $1165 )
Seat 6: santa49 ( $2075 )
Seat 10: namlung97 ( $1620 )
Seat 8: senorstan ( $730 )
Seat 1: BBBungle ( $930 )
Trny:15117815 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Qc Qs ]
>You have options at Table 39804 Table!.
Nucifraga calls [100].
BigDaveRN folds.
santa49 raises [225].
senorstan folds.
namlung97 folds.
BBBungle folds.
HERO is all-In [790]
Nucifraga folds.
>You have options at Table 39804 Table!.
santa49 calls [665].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9d, Ts, 5s ]
** Dealing Turn ** [ 3s ]
** Dealing River ** [ 3d ]
santa49 shows [ 9c, 9h ] a full house, Nines full of threes.
HERO shows [ Qc, Qs ] two pairs, queens and threes.
santa49 wins 1930 chips from the main pot with a full house, Nines full of threes.
HERO finished in seventh place.
HERO has left the table.



[/ QUOTE ]

This is a bad beat, so it goes. Aren't the $11s fun?

[jt1]

[ QUOTE ]
Hand 2 you may as well stop-and-go, he ain't folding to the push.

[/ QUOTE ]

I like the stop-&-go when I think I have the best hand but I may be dominated. I feel Villain will fold the flop more than half the time.

But in this situation, I advocate pushing. You say that Villain won't fold this anyway. I'm not sure that that's true, but if it is then Villian will see it to the river anyways on a raggity flop. Pushing gives a thinking player the opportunity to fold b4 the flop. And if I remember correctly Villian had to call 600 to win 1K. A loss puts Villian at t600 at level 6, 4 handed, but a win puts him ITM. I think this is a close call so why not give villian the opportunity to fold?

Actually, the more I think about this, the more I think that pushing or the stop & go are equally correct. Does anyone want to jump in?

[fnord_too]

Not to sound harsh but my first thought is "when ya quit whining"

[45suited]

Not to sound harsh, but you don't think that this stuff happens to all of us every day?

Here's something you might want to think about:

Maybe it's not just variance. By this I mean, yes, you did have some bad beats. But we all have bad beats and these are factored into our ROIs. What I'm trying to say is that you are focusing on the bad beats, but perhaps you're not getting yourself into position to ITM enough to be able to withstand a few bad beats.

Obviously I'm not talking about the short term. But there are some players who always focus on their bad beats, but maybe they are focusing on them because their poor play has left them with such a razor thin margin that they cannot withstand the normal run of beats that we all experience.

Am I making sense?

[Wevie]

OK, sorry if this post came out wrong. I know this is standard variance. I wasn't wanting sympathy. Just talking about a bad run of tourney's over the last four days.

I posted some of these hands simply because they are bad beats. I chose them just to show how my "luck" has been running.

Yes, it is variance. Yes it is tough to deal with.

A couple days ago I said I would take two days off after the cold run started. Well, that didn't happen. Now I'm going to force myself to stop for a week.

When you run into the bad runs do you keep grinding away or walk away for a bit?

[AliasMrJones]

If I know it is variance and the way to beat variance is time so my natural inclination is to fire up another one right away. I'll sometimes take a break for half an hour or an hour or call it a day and start fresh the next day. I never take a week off because I'm running bad.

[Wevie]

I think you're probably right. I should keep grinding. I'm very concerned about tilting as my attitude is pretty crappy regarding poker right now. Maybe just 24-48 hours would be better.

I've definitely found that stepping away from the tables and diving into my other hobbies has cleared the fog a lot.