View Full Version : Naked A to flush on the river
Burdzthewurd
08-24-2005, 02:44 AM
PLO50 on Bodog, HU
I have $97, Villain has $48. Villain is passive with overpairs, minraises with the nuts, rarely slowplays anything, hasn't been chasing non-nut draws, can fold marginal hands.
, Villains limps, I raise to $1.50 with A /images/graemlins/club.gifA /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Villain calls,
Flop is 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Not too shabby, I bet $3, Villain calls
Turn 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
I bet $9, Villain calls
River K /images/graemlins/club.gif
Now what?
adam74
08-24-2005, 06:01 AM
Based on your read of the player, he's not drawing purely to the flush, so I guess all I'd be worried about is if he had a draw to a higher straight and his hand also contained a couple of low/medium clubs. Might he have raised on the flop with such a hand?
If he was drawing to a higher straight or a full house, then he's missed, and is unlikely to call again. If he has a flush, then he'll probably call any bet you make.
Is he capable of bluffing if you check?
I think I check-call. I don't think it's worth betting since I don't think he'll call with anything that you can beat, unless he's seen you bluff here before, or bet out with, say, two-pair and he has a set. Calling any bet he might make depends on whether you think he's capable of bluffing in this situation.
I guess betting out is only worthwhile if you think he'll lay down a non-nut flush. Personally, I don't think he would.
Filip
08-24-2005, 08:10 AM
With your descs of the opponent and the fact that u have A /images/graemlins/club.gif i lead out with a pot bet. If the stacks was deeper it might go for a check-raise.
adam74
08-24-2005, 11:22 AM
Filip...what hand do you put the opponent on?
Kellermann
08-24-2005, 11:40 AM
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PLO50 on Bodog, HU
I have $97, Villain has $48. Villain is passive with overpairs, minraises with the nuts, rarely slowplays anything, hasn't been chasing non-nut draws, can fold marginal hands.
, Villains limps, I raise to $1.50 with A /images/graemlins/club.gifA /images/graemlins/spade.gif4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif
Villain calls,
Flop is 2 /images/graemlins/club.gif3 /images/graemlins/club.gif6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif
Not too shabby, I bet $3, Villain calls
Turn 9 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
I bet $9, Villain calls
River K /images/graemlins/club.gif
Now what?
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I might be wrong here but it looks like he has 66xx and hope to fill up or maybe an overpair as you indicate. Letting him get a free showdown with his T high flush is a disaster. I lead the river against most opponents.
Who is in which position? (looks like you raise from the blinds (which I hate)).
adam74
08-24-2005, 11:49 AM
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Who is in which position? (looks like you raise from the blinds (which I hate)).
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It's heads-up. Villain is SB/Button.
neuroman
08-24-2005, 12:11 PM
I'd also lead out for a pot sized bet, fold to a raise. It's possible that opponent 66xx or 45xx with a low club flush, and will lay down the winning hand. I wouldn't expect him to fold the 2nd nut Q high flush, but he might lay down a hand like 4c5s9c9s.
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With your descs of the opponent and the fact that u have A /images/graemlins/club.gif i lead out with a pot bet. If the stacks was deeper it might go for a check-raise.
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Suicidal. You presume that he'll fold the non-nut flush. In a HU battle thats asking a lot.
Filip
08-24-2005, 01:21 PM
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Filip...what hand do you put the opponent on?
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A weak flush maybe, probably 2 pair or a set.
Filip
08-24-2005, 01:26 PM
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With your descs of the opponent and the fact that u have A /images/graemlins/club.gif i lead out with a pot bet. If the stacks was deeper it might go for a check-raise.
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Suicidal. You presume that he'll fold the non-nut flush. In a HU battle thats asking a lot.
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... hasn't been chasing non-nut draws, can fold marginal hands.
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I think there is good chance he will fold a medicore flush. He also might call with a set.
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I think there is good chance he will fold a medicore flush. He also might call with a set.
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????
If he cant fold a set here, why is he going to fold a K high flush?
If you pot the river your bluff has to get him to fold the flush 50% of the time to be worthwhile. If you checkraise the bluff is going to be very expensive. And if he has a set and doesnt buy that you have a better hand, you are going to be in a very difficult situation when he reraises you.
If you check-call you can get an affordable showdown, and you can induce and pickoff bluffs as often as you pay off the flush IMO.
Filip
08-24-2005, 04:09 PM
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I think there is good chance he will fold a medicore flush. He also might call with a set.
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If he cant fold a set here, why is he going to fold a K high flush?
If you pot the river your bluff has to get him to fold the flush 50% of the time to be worthwhile. If you checkraise the bluff is going to be very expensive. And if he has a set and doesnt buy that you have a better hand, you are going to be in a very difficult situation when he reraises you.
If you check-call you can get an affordable showdown, and you can induce and pickoff bluffs as often as you pay off the flush IMO.
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I think you need to check the stack sizes, if i am not totaly of he got like pot+$1 left on the river.
So check-raise is out, and why do i wanna check/call when i can bet out the same amount since he cant raise me.
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