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08-23-2005, 05:44 PM
Last night was my first trip to a casino, and one hand in particular really stuck out in my mind. I'm wondering how badly I misplayed it.
In this particular pot there were three players.

UTG- Young, fast, loose, goes too far with hands. He was tilting badly after loosing half his stack in the last couple of hands. Plays a lot of hands, and often raises questionably preflop. He was very upset with MP1, who had drawn out on him a few times. I got the impression that he really wanted to try to win back his money especially from MP1.

MP1- My buddy who I drove up with. Somehow we were at the same table together. He is pretty loose, decent knowledge of the game, and has a tendency to make some careless plays.

Me- in this hand I'm BB. I've been playing for an hour, and have only played one hand (no other playable hands). The one hand I played I was aggressive on it, and I figured that at that point the table would respect my raises.

In this hand UTG raises. MP1 reraises. I look down at KK and reraise. UTG caps. Both MP1 and myself call. At this point I don't put either of them on anything too good, something like 55-JJ, or AK-AJ. Their previous history together made me think of their raises as nothing more than a pissing match between the two with me stuck in the middle. My plan going into it was to play aggressively, unless the flop is extremely coordinated, or there is an ace. At that point, I have no problems letting go of my hand.

Flop comes 87 4 rainbow. I bet. UTG raises. MP1 reraises. I cap, UTG and MP1 both call.

Turn comes 9. I bet, UTG raises, MP1 reraises. At this point I figure that I've probably not given the two of them enough credit for their hands and I fold. UTG caps, and MP1 calls.

River is a blank. They cap the betting.

I really felt like before the flop and on the flop I had the best hand and that I had a pretty good read on both players. But because of the constant capping on every street, I had to throw my kings away.

UTG- 55 for a pair of fives
MP1- JTo for the nut straight.

How did I screw this up? I'd like to think that I just got badly outdrawn by MP1, but I think there is more to it than that. Thanks for all your imput. And sorry if I messed up some of the writing, it was a late night last night.

numeri
08-23-2005, 06:02 PM
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I don't see how you did. On the other hand, it seems like your body was playing a bit reckless. He should have realized that you have an overpair, so we was drawing to only 4 outs. I don't see the reasoning behind his flop 3-bet.

It looks to me like you folded at just the right time.

Duffman
08-23-2005, 06:07 PM
You just got outdrawn. I would have played it the same way.

I don't think I'm wrong, but I might be, since I suck.

baronzeus
08-23-2005, 06:08 PM
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You played in a 3/6 live game, where the rake makes it impossible to be a winner.

Nick C
08-23-2005, 06:09 PM
Given the grudge UTG has against MP1, getting to showdown is probably not going to be cheap.

But I think that's where I would have been headed.

numeri
08-23-2005, 06:17 PM
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Given the grudge UTG has against MP1, getting to showdown is probably not going to be cheap.

But I think that's where I would have been headed.

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This would be true if it was only UTG showing aggression. MP1 should know we've only played one hand in the last our. He has to know we have a strong hand. His 3-bet on the turn seems to show real strength.

He might have been trying to force us out on the flop - hoping we have overcards - but the turn 3-bet does not bode well for us.

I think a call-down will generally be very expensive and unrewarding with both UTG and MP1 showing aggression.

Nick C
08-23-2005, 06:32 PM
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Given the grudge UTG has against MP1, getting to showdown is probably not going to be cheap.

But I think that's where I would have been headed.

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This would be true if it was only UTG showing aggression. MP1 should know we've only played one hand in the last our. He has to know we have a strong hand. His 3-bet on the turn seems to show real strength.

He might have been trying to force us out on the flop - hoping we have overcards - but the turn 3-bet does not bode well for us.

I think a call-down will generally be very expensive and unrewarding with both UTG and MP1 showing aggression.

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I do think the read on MP1 is kind of crucial.

Strange as it may seem (since Hero's fold was obviously good given what he was actually up against), I was partly basing what I wrote on the results.

UTG is clearly willing to put in a lot of bets with a hand that's almost certainly losing. (He did, for instance, go all the way to a cap on the river.) Would MP1 do the same with a hand like TT or JJ if the pot remained 3-way? I'm not sure. His preflop 3-bet with JTo does suggest a certain recklessness, though.

Sometimes, when you have a good but far from unbeatable hand in a pot with two LAGs, things can get uncomfortable, and it can be hard to figure out what's best.

aces_dad
08-23-2005, 06:36 PM
I think the read on MP1, at least during this session / hand, is LAG. He was acting as crazy as the guy on tilt, preflop and on the flop.

aK13
08-23-2005, 07:06 PM
Based on your read, I would cap the turn.