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08-23-2005, 12:47 PM

What would you do with any or all of the following hands?

Hand#1
100/200 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15079022) - MON AUG 22 22:57:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 14518 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: HERO (1355)
Seat 4: Ishkhan (1985)
Seat 5: katchi1 (1440)
Seat 7: accentprpl5 (1890)
Seat 8: wpcmich (910)
Seat 10: AceSpade_Kid (420)
accentprpl5 posts small blind (50)
wpcmich posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, Jc ]
AceSpade_Kid raises (420) to 420
AceSpade_Kid is all-In.
HERO?

Hand#2
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15079022) - MON AUG 22 23:00:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 14518 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: HERO (1205)
Seat 4: Ishkhan (1885)
Seat 5: katchi1 (1830)
Seat 7: accentprpl5 (1990)
Seat 10: AceSpade_Kid (1090)
Ishkhan posts small blind (75)
katchi1 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5d, 6h ]
accentprpl5 folds.
AceSpade_Kid folds.
HERO?

Hand#3
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15076131) - MON AUG 22 21:42:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 15075 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: jhab23 (3349)
Seat 3: rrmac (603)
Seat 7: Dr_Turnament (2068)
Seat 8: gtrbx (1340)
Seat 10: HERO (640)
rrmac posts small blind (75)
Dr_Turnament posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Td, Ts ]
gtrbx raises (300) to 300
HERO ?

Hand #4
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15056762) - MON AUG 22 02:30:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 11491 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Mick04 (2715)
Seat 3: DrKaufman (1460)
Seat 4: HERO (1085)
Seat 6: fiorinos (1796)
Seat 9: badabom (944)
DrKaufman posts small blind (75)
HERO posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, Jh ]
fiorinos folds.
badabom folds.
Mick04 raises (425) to 425
DrKaufman folds.
HERO ?

Hand#5
100/200 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15051677) - SUN AUG 21 23:10:59 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 2 1014479 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: fluffandtuff (315)
Seat 2: Lenaghan (1205)
Seat 3: taktaxi (905)
Seat 4: WillowBoy (2210)
Seat 7: HERO (645)
Seat 8: stevev (2720)
Lenaghan posts small blind (50)
taktaxi posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9s, 9d ]
WillowBoy folds.
HERO ?

Hand#6
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15025574) - SUN AUG 21 02:37:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 12865 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: ing888 (1010)
Seat 2: HERO (1425)
Seat 3: crj42 (2310)
Seat 4: duke75 (2810)
Seat 9: ACTION_FREAK (1290)
Seat 10: Chopstyln (1155)
duke75 posts small blind (100)
ACTION_FREAK posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Jd ]
Chopstyln folds.
ing888 folds.
HERO ?

Hand#7
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15043519) - SUN AUG 21 19:09:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 12061 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: jbcc11 (3750)
Seat 4: HERO (720)
Seat 6: usnsealteam4 (2670)
Seat 8: doggiesone (860)
jbcc11 posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, 9c ]
usnsealteam4 calls (200)
doggiesone folds.
jbcc11 calls (100)
HERO ?

ZeroPointMachine

08-23-2005, 01:14 PM

#1 Fold. Your position is just too bad to get involved here. Let the blinds worry about this hand.
#2 I would push unless blinds are loose or my image is crap.
#3 I'm scared to death of smallish stack UTG minraise, but I probably push anyway due to stack size.
#4 fold
#5 push
#6 push
#7 Ugh. Push might get rid of one opponent often enough to make it the right move.

tigerite

08-23-2005, 01:24 PM

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#1 Fold. Your position is just too bad to get involved here. Let the blinds worry about this hand.
#2 I would push unless blinds are loose or my image is crap.
#3 I'm scared to death of smallish stack UTG minraise, but I probably push anyway due to stack size.
#4 fold
#5 push
#6 push

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I agree with all these. #7 is one of those rare occasions where I think you should check; then if SB checks to you on the flop I'd shove. You're more likely to chase away the other guy than SB, and SB won't bluff too many flops with both of you in the pot.

bluefeet

08-23-2005, 01:29 PM

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What would you do with any or all of the following hands?

Hand#1
100/200 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15079022) - MON AUG 22 22:57:43 EDT 2005
Table Table 14518 (Real Money) -- Seat 5 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 2: HERO (1355)
Seat 4: Ishkhan (1985)
Seat 5: katchi1 (1440)
Seat 7: accentprpl5 (1890)
Seat 8: wpcmich (910)
Seat 10: AceSpade_Kid (420)
accentprpl5 posts small blind (50)
wpcmich posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kh, Jc ]
AceSpade_Kid raises (420) to 420
AceSpade_Kid is all-In.
HERO?

Fold. You need a MUCH better hand here - even more so, considering 4 left behind you. 

Hand#2
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15079022) - MON AUG 22 23:00:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 14518 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: HERO (1205)
Seat 4: Ishkhan (1885)
Seat 5: katchi1 (1830)
Seat 7: accentprpl5 (1990)
Seat 10: AceSpade_Kid (1090)
Ishkhan posts small blind (75)
katchi1 posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 5d, 6h ]
accentprpl5 folds.
AceSpade_Kid folds.
HERO?

Fold. 100/200, eh...might be close. Table image, reads, etc. (I'd still fold more times than push). Here, I pass on this for sure - I think you can wait for better. 

Hand#3
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15076131) - MON AUG 22 21:42:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 15075 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: jhab23 (3349)
Seat 3: rrmac (603)
Seat 7: Dr_Turnament (2068)
Seat 8: gtrbx (1340)
Seat 10: HERO (640)
rrmac posts small blind (75)
Dr_Turnament posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Td, Ts ]
gtrbx raises (300) to 300
HERO ?

The dreaded minraise. Occasionally you'll get hit w/AA-KK, just as often a "can't quite push" AJ/T. Either way, you're too short. This is a beauty - push!

Hand #4
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15056762) - MON AUG 22 02:30:23 EDT 2005
Table Table 11491 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 1: Mick04 (2715)
Seat 3: DrKaufman (1460)
Seat 4: HERO (1085)
Seat 6: fiorinos (1796)
Seat 9: badabom (944)
DrKaufman posts small blind (75)
HERO posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, Jh ]
fiorinos folds.
badabom folds.
Mick04 raises (425) to 425
DrKaufman folds.
HERO ?

You gotta fold this one. You'll maintain some FE for at least another orbit.

Hand#5
100/200 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15051677) - SUN AUG 21 23:10:59 EDT 2005
Table Mini Step 2 1014479 (Real Money) -- Seat 1 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: fluffandtuff (315)
Seat 2: Lenaghan (1205)
Seat 3: taktaxi (905)
Seat 4: WillowBoy (2210)
Seat 7: HERO (645)
Seat 8: stevev (2720)
Lenaghan posts small blind (50)
taktaxi posts big blind (100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9s, 9d ]
WillowBoy folds.
HERO ?

Easy push - 6BB's...let it rip.

Hand#6
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15025574) - SUN AUG 21 02:37:10 EDT 2005
Table Table 12865 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 6
Seat 1: ing888 (1010)
Seat 2: HERO (1425)
Seat 3: crj42 (2310)
Seat 4: duke75 (2810)
Seat 9: ACTION_FREAK (1290)
Seat 10: Chopstyln (1155)
duke75 posts small blind (100)
ACTION_FREAK posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Jd ]
Chopstyln folds.
ing888 folds.
HERO ?

I'm pushing no doubt. You don't have the chips to raise, and you still have substantial FE. A great opportunity to gain chips from MP.

Hand#7
200/400 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15043519) - SUN AUG 21 19:09:07 EDT 2005
Table Table 12061 (Real Money) -- Seat 8 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 1: jbcc11 (3750)
Seat 4: HERO (720)
Seat 6: usnsealteam4 (2670)
Seat 8: doggiesone (860)
jbcc11 posts small blind (100)
HERO posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h, 9c ]
usnsealteam4 calls (200)
doggiesone folds.
jbcc11 calls (100)
HERO ?

Well.....doesn't this just suck? Stop&Go IMO. Call and push ANY flop. Granted, it's not going to be as successful with two mongo-stacks, but neither will be pushing over the top. Hmmmmm, or would it? With SB limping here, I think he just might get out of usns's certain call to your push. Tough one. You push over here, you remove ANY chance of getting a fold on a flop-push. But that might be unlikely anyway given the odds, and considering we are 3-way. At least with the push PF, we stand a chance to get HU. Yeah, I guess I'd push PF.

edit: ok, not a S&G (acting 2nd)...but you get the drift

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DyessMan89

08-23-2005, 01:33 PM

1. Fold. Out of position, no reason to get involved with KJo. Let someone else take em out.
2. Close between push and fold, but I make the push. 9X BB, and you're almost guranteed live cards. /images/graemlins/wink.gif
3. Push. Only reason to fold is if you really believe UTG is a bad player and might get tangled onto a hand, inwhich you could fold, hope for him to bust out and be down to 4 with a good shot of cashing. (or if he min-raises with monsters)
4. StopNGo time, baby! I originally thought straight push, but I like this better. Youll have 810 left after calling the almost obvious steal raise, push it all in on the flop no matter what comes. (not to mention with J9h you have a good shot to hit something)
5. Push. Not even close.
6. Push. Not even close.
7. Push. Not even close.

08-23-2005, 02:23 PM

Thanks for the feedback...

Results...not that it really matters...

#1 Folded...and the small stack stole the blinds.
#2 Pushed and got called by the BB with KQoff.
#3 Pushed got called by KK. Sh*T happens.
#4 Pushed got called by 77 and lost the race. Trying not to be results oriented I think this was a bad play given his stack size and the raise. I was lucky it ended up a coin flip. My thinking was that if I fold I am now 5th in chips and absolutely have to make a move this next orbit.
#5 Pushed and called by BB who had QQ...Sh*t happens. Only thing I wondered about was 99 in such early position with 6 people. I was doomed anyway...the flop was 556r so unless I let it go preflop I am going to get eliminated even if I try some kind of fancy play.
#6 Pushed and SB had KK. Fine...sh*t happens...just wondered if I was being too agressive with 6 people left and in a solid chip position. SB pushes back on any kind of smaller raise and then would I have let it go? Probably being too results oriented thinking like that.
#7 Pushed...SB folded and UTG called with QJo. Had no indication he was THAT loose. Anyway, I lost the race.

ZeroPointMachine

08-23-2005, 02:42 PM

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Hand#3
150/300 TOURNEY TEXAS HOLD'EM GAME TABLE (NL) (TOURNAMENT 15076131) - MON AUG 22 21:42:37 EDT 2005
Table Table 15075 (Real Money) -- Seat 2 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: jhab23 (3349)
Seat 3: rrmac (603)
Seat 7: Dr_Turnament (2068)
Seat 8: gtrbx (1340)
Seat 10: HERO (640)
rrmac posts small blind (75)
Dr_Turnament posts big blind (150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Td, Ts ]
gtrbx raises (300) to 300
HERO ?

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This is a hand that I'm struggling with.

I see alot of players at this point in the tourney that make a bet UTG for 1/3 or even 1/2 there stack(I know in this hand it is not that extreme) when they are holding a monster. I have really begun to shy away from these hands. If villian makes this raise with 1000 instead of 1300 I might have been able to get away from this.

Is that smart or am I seeing ghosts.... /images/graemlins/crazy.gif /images/graemlins/confused.gif