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[Scorpion]

5 handed 3rd hand so no reads at all. 1/2 paradise.



Hero on button with QQ Cutoff calls I raise BB calls, Cutoff calls.

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BB checks Cutoff bets hero....?????????

[deepsquat]

raises.

You prob have the best hand and you can also fold BB. If u are 3 bet u prob know exactly where u stand.

HU i take WA/WB vs an unkown, should i extend this to 3 handed?

[brettbrettr]

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HU i take WA/WB vs an unkown, should i extend this to 3 handed?

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I think we prob can. He's prob drawing to 3 outs at most.

[wackjob]

I prefer to C/R the turn here on a non-K.

[Sakuraba]

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I prefer to C/R the turn here on a non-K.

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This never works for me when I am the button.

[Sakuraba]

call, I don't think there is enough value in getting the BB out to justify raising. The board is completely drawless. There is a pretty good chance he will fold anyway.

I would call down. If checked to, I would bet.

[wackjob]

Ok, misread, you are not the BB. So, call the flop bet & raise/bet the turn would be my line.

[mcvalenc]

Call the flop. In general, call and bet if checked to.

[Sakuraba]

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So, call the flop bet & raise/bet the turn would be my line.

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Do you fold to a turn 3 bet?

[wackjob]

Not vs. unknowns.

[imported_leader]

I like a str8 call down from the flop. A turn raise would seem to just fold a low PP and air while leaving you to get called/raised by an A. If I have a loose or aggressive read on CO I would consider a turn raise.

[Scorpion]

I raised the flop got called in 2 spots. Blank turn BB checks, cutoff bets , I call BB calls. River blanks again checked to me, I check behind. BB has KJ for zip and cutoff had 55 MHIG. Couldn't pull the trigger on the river after being bet into twice the check really threw me though.

I have it on quite good authority that you gotta raise the flop or call the flop and raise the turn.

The authority, btw, is David Pham. I'm at his table in the fourth hour of the $2,000 limit HE WSOP this year and I get QQ in MP. I raise, CO calls, Pham 3 bets from the BB, I 4 bet, CO calls, Pham caps.

Flop: AA6. Pham checks, I bet, CO raises, Pham 3 bets. I wuss out and fold.

Turn and river are rags.

CO shows 76s and Pham takes it down with 77. Arrgh.

Now, the players you're up against might play things a little differently ;-), but still, you're likely ahead.

The river check would throw me off to... But the right thing is to bet cause I believe the river checked on a paired flop usually means pocketpair or the low flopped pair.