Helpful Books

[minwoo]

I'm strictly a SNG player but would like to try get into limit cash games. If you look at all the pros, they seem to be consistently making their living from cash games, not tournaments. The highest I've ever played was 3/6 at the local cardroom when waiting for a tournament to start. I have about a $4k bankroll and would like to start 4-tabling the 5/10. However, I'm pretty sure my limit skills are mediocre. Can you guys recommend some good books to start me off? Thanks!

[Entity]

4-tabling the 5/10 is a sure way to get yourself broke quickly. You've got 400BB and no clue what you're doing in limit poker.

Start with SSH (Small Stakes Hold'em) and $2/4.

Rob

[Maulik]

Advanced Hold'em Sklansky.
Theory of Poker Sklansky.

[minwoo]

Thanks, I appreciate the response. What kind of bankroll would one need when 4-tabling a certain limit? I thought 400x BB would be enough - obviously I was wrong.

Also, Lee Jones' book "Winning Low Limit Hold 'em" - any good?

Thanks again.

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Thanks, I appreciate the response. What kind of bankroll would one need when 4-tabling a certain limit? I thought 400x BB would be enough - obviously I was wrong.

Also, Lee Jones' book "Winning Low Limit Hold 'em" - any good?

Thanks again.

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Some around here say they don't like but I'm reading through WLLH a second time and I think it's great. I have SSHE but its a bit more complex so I stopped about halfway through and picked up WLLH.

I think both books, WLLH and SSHE, are required reading if you want to seriously learn limit poker.

After I know both of these books front to back, I'll be picking up Advanced Hold'em. GL.

[Maulik]

400bb is good for games where you're a winner.

it will be hard to figure out if you're a winner. but SNG players are always winners /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[shant]

400BB is fine, but what he is saying is you should practice at a lower limit first and then when you feel comfortable with your skill, you can move to an appropriate level for your bankroll.

[raptor517]

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I'm strictly a SNG player but would like to try get into limit cash games. If you look at all the pros, they seem to be consistently making their living from cash games, not tournaments. The highest I've ever played was 3/6 at the local cardroom when waiting for a tournament to start. I have about a $4k bankroll and would like to start 4-tabling the 5/10. However, I'm pretty sure my limit skills are mediocre. Can you guys recommend some good books to start me off? Thanks!

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minwoo, right now im 8 tabling 3-6 /images/graemlins/wink.gif im tryin to learn to play limit better as well.. i picked up small stakes holdem by ed miller and middle limit holdem by bob ciaffone. ive read just about every other book written though.. so hopefully they will add SOMETHING. good luck, and maybe ill run into ya. holla

[minwoo]

Thanks man. The SNG grind just isn't that much fun for me right now and I can't help but think you feel the same. Why else would ya be playing 3/6 when you can be making gazillions of dollars 12-tabling the 215s /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif

[raptor517]

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Thanks man. The SNG grind just isn't that much fun for me right now and I can't help but think you feel the same. Why else would ya be playing 3/6 when you can be making gazillions of dollars 12-tabling the 215s /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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haha, yea its def a grind.. 5 months in a row of 2k sngs each kinda wears ya down a bit. i used to mess around in 10-20 6max a lot, but im pretty sure i was breaking even.. ptracker says i was up but i dont think i wwas. that was a while ago though.. so im actually gonna put some effort into this and try to learn the game. woohoo for 3-6. holla

[Maulik]

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Thanks man. The SNG grind just isn't that much fun for me right now and I can't help but think you feel the same. Why else would ya be playing 3/6 when you can be making gazillions of dollars 12-tabling the 215s /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif

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haha, yea its def a grind.. 5 months in a row of 2k sngs each kinda wears ya down a bit. i used to mess around in 10-20 6max a lot, but im pretty sure i was breaking even.. ptracker says i was up but i dont think i wwas. that was a while ago though.. so im actually gonna put some effort into this and try to learn the game. woohoo for 3-6. holla

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aside from the 'gazillion' dollars I'm playing 3/6 because you can't get SNGs in casinos

[TheHip41]

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Thanks, I appreciate the response. What kind of bankroll would one need when 4-tabling a certain limit? I thought 400x BB would be enough - obviously I was wrong.

Also, Lee Jones' book "Winning Low Limit Hold 'em" - any good?

Thanks again.

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This assumes you don't suck. We don't know if you do or not. That's all.

If you are not good enough for 5-10, 10000BB won't help you.

[mtdoak]

My steps to becoming a winning player:

#1. Read SSH hold'em
#2. Get some practice is. 2/4 is a good place for beginners. I'd keep playing sit+go's if its your bread and butter. Get 20k hands in or so. Post some hands, your PT stats,
#3. Reread Small stakes Hold'em. Play another 20k hands. Post more hands. Get used to playing 2, than 3, than finally 4 tables at a time.
#4. Read Hold'em Poker for Advanced players
#5. Move up to 3/6 on Party. Start with the full, then move to 6 max. Get another 10k hands in. Start posting in the HUSH (Heads up and short handed) forum, get used to shorthanded play.
#6. Read some more books, esp. on shorthanded play
#7. Start playing some 5/10 6 max.