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bluefeet
08-22-2005, 12:34 PM
I'll swap a 'read' for a 'depends' option....

$55+5 turbo
PokerStars Game #2393220519: Tournament #11593539, Hold'em No Limit - Level IV (50/100) - 2005/08/21 - 21:54:20 (ET)
Table '11593539 1' Seat #8 is the button
Seat 1: bambino99 (1660 in chips)
Seat 2: waterman_111 (4455 in chips)
Seat 3: Da Hawk (1885 in chips)
Seat 4: nykosuave (600 in chips)
Seat 7: forego23 (1565 in chips)
Seat 8: Moody1111 (1800 in chips)
Seat 9: bluefeet (1535 in chips)
bluefeet: posts small blind 50
bambino99: posts big blind 100
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to bluefeet [8s 8d]
2 folds
nykosuave: raises 500 to 600 and is all-in
2 folds
<font color="blue">bluefeet ?? </font>

Ixnert
08-22-2005, 02:40 PM
Barely leaning toward call (actually, overpush, if I play it -- the last thing I want is BB getting the idea that he could push me out with a push of his own). It's a turbo, so you need to pick up chips sometime soon, and this might be a good opportunity.

Any reads on short stack? How did he get in that situation? Is this the first time he has pushed since he got short? Has he been folding a lot since then seemingly looking for a good hand? Any idea if he's a 2+2'er?

If I have any inkling that short stack has been waiting for a good hand to get the rest of his chips in, I fold. If he donked away the first 900, or if I think there's much chance he's pushing a very wide range, as he probably should be, I'm much more likely to call.

bluefeet
08-22-2005, 02:47 PM
(If memory serves...) He suffered a pretty bad beat 2 hands previous. Folded one, pushed this one.

I'm probably as guilty as most, when it comes to underestimating a short-stack's push - especially if he had become short recently. Often you do see less than spectacular.

The struggle is deciding whether or not to take even a slight edge at this point in the tourney (against AJo say).

Jbrochu
08-22-2005, 03:11 PM
My guess would be that you have a 60% chance of a coin flip, a 25% chance of being a 4-to-1 dog, and a 15% chance of being a 4-to-1 favorite. If you think you're one of the better players at the table, (and I'm guessing you are since I've played against you in the trout games), I can't see you calling this.

Maybe if you only had 1,000 chips or the blinds were already 100/200....