$11's Chip leader in bubble ... risk/reward??? (2 hands)

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

I had t3200 chips in the bubble and finished 4th. Did I play these two hands correctly? I assume that the 1st hand is correct, but I am unsure about the 2nd hand... am I risking too much by pushing here w/ only J5s?

Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (3230)
Seat 4: philmcgill (1980)
Seat 5: Awsomosity (2105)
Seat 7: GiantsFan528 (685)
Dr_Jeckyl_00 posts small blind (100)
philmcgill posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Jd, Ah ]
Awsomosity folds.
GiantsFan528 raises (685) to 685
GiantsFan528 is all-In.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (3130) to 3230
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In.
philmcgill folds.
Creating Main Pot with $1570 with GiantsFan528
Creating Side Pot 1 with $2545 with Dr_Jeckyl_00
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 9s, 8c ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3c ]
** Dealing River ** : [ Ks ]
Villain's Hand in White below
<font color="white">Jh Kh - pair of kings</font>

Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 (2545)
Seat 4: philmcgill (1780)
Seat 5: Awsomosity (2105)
Seat 7: GiantsFan528 (1570)
philmcgill posts small blind (100)
Awsomosity posts big blind (200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Jd, 5d ]
GiantsFan528 folds.
philmcgill: never fails
Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises (2545) to 2545
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In.
philmcgill calls (1680)
philmcgill is all-In.
Awsomosity folds.
Creating Main Pot with $3760 with philmcgill
Creating Side Pot 1 with $765 with Dr_Jeckyl_00
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 6h, Ah, 2d ]
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 3h ]
** Dealing River ** : [ 2s ]
Villain's hand below in white
<font color="white"> As Ac - a full house </font>

[downtown]

Hand 1 is fine. Hand 2 fold PF.

You had &gt;10BB, this is why its not recommended to push with &gt;10BB. Raise to 500-600, if he pushes you can fold. If he calls you can check/fold(barring hitting a monster).

[tigerite]

Actually it's alright to push because the two to act after him have around 10BB and 8BB respectively, but I fold that for sure.

Im sorry, I thought he was SB and trying to take the BB chips. Definatly a fold w/two more to act.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

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Im sorry, I thought he was SB and trying to take the BB chips. Definatly a fold w/two more to act.

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Thanks gigastack... both of your replys have provided a why I should do something and that is very helpful... and often missing from people's advice on this forum... now if I can just apply it /images/graemlins/wink.gif

[downtown]

Heh I just realized that I didn't provide any reasons, and that's my effin new years resolution and here it is already August! So...

Hand 1 you're likely way ahead because shorties range is so wide and you want it HU, so you were absolutely correct to push.

Hand 2 I would *not* raise a smaller amount. I would fold or push, in that order. Since you are comfy in your stack size where you are right now, you can look for a better spot to push IMO. As I think you already suspect based on your post title, the risk is too high (for almost your whole stack if you get a call) for the &lt;10% increase in stack size for you. I cannot confirm this with ICM, as I don't have that sweet program! Which reminds me I've got to get it. Peace.

[Sciolist]

http://www.bol.ucla.edu/~sharnett/ICM/ICM.html

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

Now that is a nice constructive reply. Thanks! I agree with everyone's assessment, even before my post, but after my all-in /images/graemlins/tongue.gif ... I hate when I push impulsively...