Variance has a field day with me, some problem hands.

[Baseballer02]

Went down 40BB faster than I could say "God damn river." Here's some hands I"m not to sure about.

Hand 1: MP3 is 21/13/2.83
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Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button calls, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls, Button calls, SB calls.

Flop: (15 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Button folds, SB folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, MP3 calls.

Turn: (12 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, UTG+1 folds, MP3 calls.

River: (19 BB) T/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 23 BB




Hand 2: Button is 52/10/1.81
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Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, CO calls, Button calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
UTG+1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls, CO calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, Button calls.

River: (10.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, CO calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, Hero calls, CO folds.

Final Pot: 15.75 BB




Hand 3: FPS, don't know why I did what I did.
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Preflop: Hero is CO with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls.

Flop: (8.50 SB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (5.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, Hero calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets</font>, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB

[hobbsmann]

All these hands look fine. Maybe just call the turn raise in hand 1, but 3-betting isn't bad.

[Nick Royale]

Hand 1:
Since I can't put MP3 on TT I would play it the same way (3-bet the turn).

Hand 2:
I'm not sure about whether I bet the turn or check/raise. I think I like the check/raise. It might fold a single /images/graemlins/heart.gif in the hands of CO and still gains us 2BB with the chance of eliminating a flush redraw. Button raised 2 players on the flop which makes him likely to bet the turn, it indicates a strong hand/draw. Since the only reasonable strong draw got there, the flush draw, there are not many hands that would check the turn. If villain held the other possible strong draw KQ he have hit TP and will probably bet the turn anyway. The King might work as a scarecard, but still I don't think the turn will get checked through a lot. I think check/raising and betting out is pretty close.

Hand 3:
This is a situation I'm not sure how to handle. It's not an ideal WA/WB situation, but your opponent will rarely hold more than 3 outs. I like to get to a showdown cheap, c/c c/c c/c. If the cards come safe I consider betting the river, especially if it's a card that might scare your opponent, a 3rd card to a flush or something like that.

[gh9801]

I don't like the turn threebet for hand #1, I tend to see a set here more often than not

[Nick Royale]

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I don't like the turn threebet for hand #1, I tend to see a set here more often than not

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MP3 seems like a reasonable player. The only hand he can hold that beat ours is TT (3 combos) We're ahead of KK-JJ (18 combos). He's definately more likely to play TT this way, but still I think 3-betting is good. Without the presence of a 3rd player I would just call.

[gh9801]

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I don't like the turn threebet for hand #1, I tend to see a set here more often than not

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MP3 seems like a reasonable player. The only hand he can hold that beat ours is TT (3 combos) We're ahead of KK-JJ (18 combos). He's definately more likely to play TT this way, but still I think 3-betting is good. Without the presence of a 3rd player I would just call.

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A set from the flop is also possible here. KK most likely caps preflop. QQ probably but not necessarily caps. At this point we beat only JJ and QQ, and 99 or worse is most likely not raising this turn