KK early in a SnG

[cdxx]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

MP3 (t685)
CO (t930)
Hero (t1270)
SB (t1000)
BB (t1450)
UTG (t1060)
UTG+1 (t2110)
MP1 (t755)
MP2 (t740)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP2 calls t30, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t120, MP2 folds.

Flop: (t345) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t225</font>, BB calls t225.

Turn: (t795) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero raises All-in, BB folds.

Final Pot: t795

[Morbo]

standard, yes?

[cdxx]

obviously i've played sng's before, but i am a relative newbie. the all-in raise was slightly more than the pot. that should take out any draws, right? i just wanted to take the pot right there and ensure myself a better position in the whole tournament.

[fisherman112]

i dont like this turn push at all if this is above a 30+3.
unnecessarily risky for this early stage.

[Morbo]

So what is your move on the turn?

[cdxx]

i am only behind AA, JJ, 99 and 88. would the BB play it like this? this is at 50+5 (won a freeroll) into it.

[Pete H]

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i dont like this turn push at all if this is above a 30+3.
unnecessarily risky for this early stage.

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So far I've played only 800 chip PP tournies, but at those levels I would never give free card for that board.

Any reasonable sized bet is going to commit you, so I'd have to push that turn.

I think you played it exactly as it should be played. I'm not sure why the level matters. In this case, you're relatively sure that you have the best hand and you want to take it down immediately. I don't see why you would want to change your play if you were playing a 100 instead of a 20.

[KingMedicine]

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i am only behind AA, JJ, 99 and 88. would the BB play it like this? this is at 50+5 (won a freeroll) into it.

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while unlikely, youre also behind Q-10, 10-7 and 3-3 and drawing dead to Q-10 and 10-7.

[KingMedicine]

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i am only behind AA, JJ, 99 and 88. would the BB play it like this? this is at 50+5 (won a freeroll) into it.

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while unlikely, youre also behind Q-10, 10-7 and 3-3 and drawing dead to Q-10 and 10-7.

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wait, come to think of it, youre also behind J9, J8, 98, J3, 93 and 83.

that being said, you played it the same way i would. id expect the bastard to turn over QQ or 1010 or a set.

I wonder what this guy actually had. Strange he called the flop and then laid down. Had to have been QQ.

[Pete H]

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I wonder what this guy actually had. Strange he called the flop and then laid down. Had to have been QQ.

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I don't think that many players could fold an overpair here.
I'm thinking AK/Q of hearts are much more likely.

Even though he's not getting correct odds to draw on the flop, he has good implied odds if he hits it.
And because "donkeys always draw" this villain wasn't a complete donkey and laid down his draw, or he had something else.
He even might have had a small pocket pair and he called the flop to see if you just made a continuation bet on the flop with missed AK and was prepared to push the turn if checked to him.

[Isura]

Depends how solid he is. If he's solid I bet 300 and look to fold to a check/raise, and hope that the bet induces a river check from him if he calls.