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sethypooh21
08-21-2005, 08:50 PM
SB is laggish, BB is Tight-passive preflop but plays aggressively from then on. My flop 3-bet is standard right? SB's Call/Cap forced me to slow down, but I don't think he has a set often enough for folding to be correct...

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Preflop: Hero is MP with A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB calls, BB calls.

Flop: (6 SB) 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
SB checks, BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, SB calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (9 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

River: (12 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, Hero calls.

Final Pot: 15 BB
Nick C
08-21-2005, 10:12 PM
It looks fine to me.

SB's flop call/cap is troublesome, but I wouldn't fold.

If things were going for you the way they did at times for me last night, then he had a hand like Q8 or 98.

JT is another annoying possibility (in addition to a monster like 44), but like I said, I wouldn't fold.
Sakuraba
08-21-2005, 10:16 PM
I like it.

I would never fold in this hand with these opponents. I would also 3 bet the flop. I would not raise the turn either unless the SB was really, really aggressive. If he was, I would.
TMFS9
08-21-2005, 10:20 PM
I think I might be able to find a river fold here, depending on how laggish the SB is.
Sakuraba
08-21-2005, 10:26 PM
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I think I might be able to find a river fold here, depending on how laggish the SB is.

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You don't think you are good here 1 out of 15 times?
odawg09090
08-21-2005, 11:11 PM
A river fold here would be a big mistake in my opinion after calling the flop and turn considering the pot size. Call it down.
donger
08-21-2005, 11:13 PM
Folding the river after calling the turn is pretty ridiculous.
bank
08-21-2005, 11:16 PM
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I think I might be able to find a river fold here, depending on how laggish the SB is.

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no.
TMFS9
08-21-2005, 11:34 PM
If you were to have a default here it would be to call, but I think there are a number of opponents that overcalling on the river would be unprofitable. I was just pointing out that a river call shouldn't be automatic here, because IMO I as well as many others make these calls too often. Second in my experience these call/cap kind of plays are most likely a monster and sometimes a draw. Well the only draw on the board gets there by the river and finally you are overcalling a BB who could have any two cards checkraised 2 players on the flop. I think you should have a pretty good feel on your opponents to make a fold like this but again I don't think it should be an automatic call.
sethypooh21
08-22-2005, 02:26 AM
FWIW, SB shows QT, BB shows QJ, MHIG...