basics of post flop at $22's (JJ from SB)

[J-Lo]

who makes this turn bet? and who check folds? to any bet?

***** Hand History for Game 2573701914 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $20 Buy-in + $2 Entry Fee Trny:15040146 Level:3 Blinds(25/50) - Sunday, August 21, 16:50:04 EDT 2005
Table Table 14980 (Real Money)
Seat 7 is the button
Total number of players : 9
Seat 3: HaywudGblome ( $965 )
Seat 8: addicted777 ( $990 )
Seat 9: lechmich ( $895 )
Seat 10: mattybirish2 ( $1910 )
Seat 6: dabulls531 ( $972 )
Seat 7: Low_Chicago ( $465 )
Seat 2: Instee ( $730 )
Seat 1: cashooter ( $405 )
Seat 5: Tall_Jenn ( $668 )
Trny:15040146 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to addicted777 [ Jc Jd ]
mattybirish2 calls [50].
cashooter folds.
Instee folds.
HaywudGblome folds.
Tall_Jenn folds.
dabulls531 folds.
Low_Chicago calls [50].
>You have options at Table 14978 Table!.
>You have options at Table 14099 Table!.
addicted777 calls [25].
>You have options at Table 13991 Table!.
lechmich raises [100].
mattybirish2 folds.
Low_Chicago folds.
addicted777 calls [100].
** Dealing Flop ** [ 9c, 5d, Ac ]
addicted777 checks.
lechmich checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
addicted777 bets [175].
lechmich raises [400].
addicted777 folds.
lechmich does not show cards.
lechmich wins 975 chips

[garyjacosta]

without reads on the players I would say most likely you are up against QQ

[Oluwafemi]

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** Dealing Turn ** [ 2s ]
addicted777 checks.

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[Isura]

I'm usually pushing preflop.

[Oluwafemi]

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it's pretty much a given i'm raising preflop. the blinds are too low and there's not enough money preflop to where pushing makes since.
Olu

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[J-Lo]

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it's pretty much a given i'm raising preflop. the blinds are too low and there's not enough money preflop to where pushing makes since.
Olu

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would u also be raising AK/AQ? with those i can raise and push ANY flop w/ my stack size. But it gets tricky w/ JJ and smaller pairs. Because if i make a continuation bet, then i'm in too deep and gettin' very good odds to call a push, almost 3:1-- help!

[Oluwafemi]

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sorry, i meant i'm reraising preflop.

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without reads on the players I would say most likely you are up against QQ

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wow, thats pretty accurate considering no reads, hell its accurate even with reads.

I would raise pf as well, you have to define your hand as no one has shown any strength yet...if BB pushes, i'd consider folding and then probably do so.

[J-Lo]

i was considering limp pushing, i woulda done it, had the preflop raise been bigger or smaller. The raise to 150 smells fishy, "I WANT A CALL" type of raise-- that's the only reason i didn't.

gigastack, i HATE playing out of position w/ betting impetus w/ a pair where an overcard will flop greater than 50% of the time.

[Sciolist]

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I'm usually pushing preflop.

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With 20x bb and no danger of being blinded out? Why? My line would be raise preflop, raise the flop, pass if anyone shows any indication of having a hand.

OOP can be bad, but an over card can look just as scary to them as it does to you. I personally see JJ as a hand that is almost always ahead pf, and ill push that edge when I have it. You should be raising to get those limpers outta there.

This could be one of my leaks though.

[flyingmoose]

The chips out there will increase your stack by like 20%, push it.

If you were the button I'd be behind a regular raise, but JJ OOP sucks. Hard. When the pot is a significant portion of your stack, you may as well get it in while the goods are good.