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11t
08-20-2005, 11:52 AM
Table is pretty tight but calling ranges could be slightly looser than previously since the blinds just went up.

SB ($1455.00)
BB ($1335.00)
UTG ($1575.00)
Hero ($1055.00)
CO ($1125.00)
Button ($1455.00)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero...
axeshigh
08-20-2005, 11:54 AM
1) fold.
2) maybe you should say what the blinds 'have gone up' to.
11t
08-20-2005, 12:03 PM
Sry, tryiing out a new converter. Blinds are 100/200.
tigerite
08-20-2005, 12:11 PM
It's close this. One more seat closer to the bubble I can't see myself not pushing, but from here.. meh. It's probably about neutral EV one way or the other, so flip a coin or something, heh.
pearljam
08-20-2005, 12:24 PM
I think this is a push, alot easier if none of your opponents have done anything too out of line.
Daliman
08-20-2005, 12:28 PM
Easy push. K9o is about a 58% hand, so chances are it's the best you'll see for its value over this and the following 2 hands.
tigerite
08-20-2005, 12:43 PM
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It's close this. One more seat closer to the bubble I can't see myself not pushing, but from here.. meh. It's probably about neutral EV one way or the other, so flip a coin or something, heh.

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I'm half asleep today. I obviously meant one seat closer to the button. Yeah, it's a nice hand and 58% etc, but I still don't think it's an easy push.
Havok
08-20-2005, 12:46 PM
"I think this is a push, alot easier if none of your opponents have done anything too out of line."

This is a serious question, but what makes king, 9 offsuit a push in MP. There are still players to act, and I always felt that king, 9 offsuit is just too easily domintated. However, are you trying this push for FE? In which case wouldn't just a raise of 4 times the BB be better, followed by an all in on any board if there are any callers? Just curious.
tigerite
08-20-2005, 12:47 PM
If you raise to 4xbb you have 1xbb to put in on the flop, and nobody is going to fold that
jt1
08-20-2005, 01:08 PM
What a wake up call! To me this is a clear fold in MP. On the CO, I'm making an uneasy push. On the button, this is an easy push.
Daliman
08-20-2005, 04:07 PM
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"I think this is a push, alot easier if none of your opponents have done anything too out of line."

This is a serious question, but what makes king, 9 offsuit a push in MP. There are still players to act, and I always felt that king, 9 offsuit is just too easily domintated. However, are you trying this push for FE? In which case wouldn't just a raise of 4 times the BB be better, followed by an all in on any board if there are any callers? Just curious.

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I'm sure you realize you misstated the 4x bet here, given the blinds. Yes, at 100-200, your FE is good, and you are racing versus a good portion of the hands that CAN call you, and even leading a few. The main point though is that you are about to lose almost 30% of your stack over the next 3 hands if you don't find a hand, and then your FE and EV plummet.