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[-Skeme-]

Rickson is a wuss and a liar. He claims he's 400-0, even though he took a loss to some guy in a Sambo tournament back in the day. He won't fight anybody. He wouldn't fight Sak after Sak completely chumped his entire family in the ring. He counts sparring, street fights, training, etc. as legitimate wins for his record.

[KDawgCometh]

Rickson has been out of competition for way too long to be anything more then a buy-rate pop for either Pride or UFC right now. 15 years ago he would be one of the top players at his weight class. His submission skill is better then Nog, but really I can't see how many people can beat Fedor right now. His wrestling is amazing and his hands are extremely heavy. I don't think that Rickson would beat Fedor, but of course it doesn't take much to slip in a choke or find someone in an armbar if you position them right

I saw some of the Pride fighters on Fox Sports Net tonight and they look twice as big as most of the guys in the UFC. They make Chuck Liddell look like a joke. Some guy named Nikolov or something has a deadly kick that knocks people out.

[Army Eye]

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I saw some of the Pride fighters on Fox Sports Net tonight and they look twice as big as most of the guys in the UFC. They make Chuck Liddell look like a joke. Some guy named Nikolov or something has a deadly kick that knocks people out.

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Mirko Filipovic is the guy with the kick of extreme agonizing death.

Yes, fighters in Pride are much better than their UFC counterparts. The sport is much more popular than Japan than it is here, thus there is more money in it there, so the elite fighters end up over there. Sadly, most UFC fighters get paid peanuts.

[Luzion]

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Mirko Filipovic is the guy with the kick of extreme agonizing death.

Yes, fighters in Pride are much better than their UFC counterparts. The sport is much more popular than Japan than it is here, thus there is more money in it there, so the elite fighters end up over there. Sadly, most UFC fighters get paid peanuts.

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Pride is also a lot more fun to watch, though I cant really put my finger on why it is.

[Rev. Good Will]

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Mirko Filipovic is the guy with the kick of extreme agonizing death.

Yes, fighters in Pride are much better than their UFC counterparts. The sport is much more popular than Japan than it is here, thus there is more money in it there, so the elite fighters end up over there. Sadly, most UFC fighters get paid peanuts.

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Pride is also a lot more fun to watch, though I cant really put my finger on why it is.

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because UFC fighters all have the same boxer/wrestler background, doing meh kickboxing(though mostly just punching), and basic ground-n-pound style for ground fighting?

[hoyaboy1]

Some reasons Pride is more exciting, IMO:

1 - better fighters
2 - no cage means it's harder to lay and pray
3 - more standups of lay and pray
4 - judging focuses on trying to finish the fight, not lay and pray
5 - knees and kicks to guys on the ground are allowed

[robokop]

Pride lacks the cage which makes the ground fighting better.
Pride also has red cards, or whatever color they are, which deduct 10% of a fighter's pay for inactivity during the fight.
Also, Pride allows stomps to the head of a downed opponent.
Plus, the fighters are just plain better.

[KDawgCometh]

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Pride is also a lot more fun to watch, though I cant really put my finger on why it is.

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I think one reason is in pride if you get a yellow card you get money taken out of your payment, so the fights are very geared towards action

[Rev. Good Will]

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Rickson is a wuss and a liar. He claims he's 400-0, even though he took a loss to some guy in a Sambo tournament back in the day. He won't fight anybody. He wouldn't fight Sak after Sak completely chumped his entire family in the ring. He counts jiu jitsu competitions from 1970's in brazil when they didn't keep records, and challenged matches as legitimate wins for his record.

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FYP

the loss you are referring to (ron tripp, '94) was because rickson didn't know the rules. He got thrown a certain way that ended the match(a la judo), but he landed it with tripp in an armbar and crying like a little bitch.

he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.

he's looked up to as a BJJ god for a reason.

will post the list of 400 people he beat in a few days, my friend has a list somewhere

edited for clarity

[KDawgCometh]

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he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.



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what was the date of the funaki fight, that's a tape that I'd love to get my hands on. It had to be in pancrase, right?

[Rev. Good Will]

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he also pwned masa funaki, a fighter who beat ken shamrock and bas rutten, when rickson was at the age of 42, which is pretty damn good.



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what was the date of the funaki fight, that's a tape that I'd love to get my hands on. It had to be in pancrase, right?

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nope, the event was called C2K Colosseum 2000... not too familiar with it

[James Boston]

I'm unfamiliar with this. Can I rent it? What's the differnece from UFC?

[applejuicekid]

WRONG

RICKSON GRACIE Date of Birth: Nov.21,1959. Brazilian Lightheavyweight 7th Degree Black Belt in JuJitsu Trained by Helio Gracie.
Height: 5ft. 10inch. Weight: 185lbs.

RING RECORD: Undated Bouts: Defeated Saulo Ribiero Defeated Jamelao Defeated Aljandre Paiva Defeated Leonardo Castello Defeated Branca Defeated Tom Haezle Defeated Equada 1973: Defeated Mateo Macia(1/10)by choke(0:14) Defeated Ingnacio Paulino(1/13)by choke(0:12) Defeated Ernesto Hoau(1/16)by choke(0:21) Defeated Melio Acuna(1/19)by choke(0:16) Defeated Guillermo"Billy"Sanchez(1/23) Defeated Franco DeLaVechio(1/30) Defeated Cheyenne Riveria(2/16)by clock choke (0:09) Defeated Ed"Slim"Greene(2/21) Defeated Hans"The Great"Stachel(2/2 Defeated Raul Martinez(3/09) Defeated Poli Vasquez(3/16) Defeated Felix Polo(?)by rear mount(0:23) Defeated Hector Grazos(?)by choke Defeated Joa DaSilva(?)by choke Defeated Wilson Rodrigues(?) Defeated Eder Pires(?)by choke Defeated Ado Jua(?)by submission(1:04) Defeated Manoel Silva(?)by triangle choke(0:07) Defeated Hector Girouz(?)by clock choke(0:11) Defeated Luies Rodriguez(?)by submission(0:19) Defeated Miguel BoggWright(4/2) Defeated Fracno Rendarogue(4/6) Defeated Ted Tackman(4/13) Defeated Rouxton Grisoulyon(6/16) Defeated Andoulet Voiter(6/23) Defeated Steven Kentman(4/20) Defeated Dadari Ryomu(5/14) Defeated Frank Kentwick(7/14) Defeated Kurasetsu Nisho(9/12) Defeated Baltazar Silva Defeated Costenito Montes Defeated Benito Valdez Defeated Alejandro Melendez Defeated Tomas Chavez Defeated Jeronimo Flores Defeated Miguel Clemente Defeated Romeo Castillo Defeated Alex Cazares Defeated Jorge Pacheco Defeated Farolito Ayala Defeated Armando Castro Defeated Guillermo Guillen Defeated Jose Rosa by TKO Defeated Memo Lopez by armbar(0:0 Defeated Pajarito Rivera Defeated Raul Herrera Defeated Felipe Pinder by submission(0:10)_ Defeated Arlindo Chang by choke(0:07) Defeated Famoso Lara by triangle choke(0:16) 1974: Defeated Felix Chaez(?) by rear choke(0:14) Defeated Joa Klein(?) Defeated Luies Steiner(?) Defeated Hans Leisjua(?) by knockout Defeated Miguel Garzo(?) Defeated Eder Montes(?) Defeated Poli Hernandez(?) Defeated Chatieroux Chavez(1/3) Defeated Luies Chavez(1/10) by choke Defeated Roberto Neres(1/16) by choke Defeated Jacquim Rodrigues(1/19) by choke Defeated Nelson Danton(1/23)) by choke(0:09) Defeated Helio Miesergauez(1/30) Defeated Valintin Xavier(2/14) Defeated Romero Baltazr(2/24) Defeated German Soto(3/11) Defeated Hernon Uribe(3/19) by submission(0:17) Defeated Mauro Zenos(3/25) by submission(0:10) Defeated Bekim Tonna(3/31) by clock choke(0:13) Defeated Sergio Villegas(4/05) Defeated Ronaldo Suarza(4/12) Defeated Lachie Fernandez(4/19) Defeated Shane Cartbel((4/22) Defeated Voitier Readieson(5/17) Defeated Rougatat Jeanette(5/1) Defeated Fernando Andison(5/25) Defeated Wayami Hiho(6/7) Defeated Taisumei Futomo(7/1) Defeated Fakuyari Roso(9/26) by knockout (0:19) Defeated Brad Hedgewick(9/6) Defeated Grisenoire Rendardier(5/9) Defeated Val Xavier(10/12) Defeated Fernandeo Sawlo(10/16) Defeated Tony Dulseti(10/) Defeated Hernando Lopez(10/19) Defeated Humberto Gurreo(10/23) Defeated Anicato Rodriguez(10/25) Defeated Franciso Navaro(10/30) Defeated Hip Yi-Lee(11/14) Defeated Alcio Mierjous(11/1 Defeated Gilberto Almonte(11/23) Defeated Young Joffre(11/27) Defeated Micheal Von-Ryan(12/06) by choke(0:07) Defeated Mandingo(12/15) by choke(0:0 Defeated KiKo Jineres(12/22) by choke(0:05) Defeated Larry Robinson(12/26)by clock choke (0:14) Defeated Daniel Santi(12/30)by triangle chock(0:09) 1975: Defeated Mao Calderon(1/17) Defeated Renato Juao(1/2 Defeated Ricky Navarro(2/14) Defeated Franco Mitsumi(2/26) Defeated Al Simaratana(3/05) Defeated Bansumei Nakushu(3/23) Defeated Rudy Boggwood(3/2 Defeated Joel Hodgeton(4/25) Defeated Spencer Cartwood(5/1 Defeated Jean Dobman(6/21) Defeated Fernando Chaturue(7/7) Defeated Jon Campham(7/24) Defeated Bob Fairwood(8/20) Defeated Julio Bonardier(10/2) Defeated Jason Jean-Pierre(10/9) Defeated Gomeo Boyd(10/16) Defeated Hans Kruger(10/23) Defeated Angel Rodrigeuz(10/30) Defeated Fighting Fernandez(11/14) Defeated Ado Ramos(11/21) Defeated Pu Yi Tong(11/2 by submission(0:1 Defeated Milnos Branski(12/06) Defeated Shane Scott(12/13) Defeated Julious Hernaou(12/20) Defeated Ramiro Hojas(12/27) Defeated Jean-Pierre Thoonen(12/31) 1976: Defeated Kyle Sinclair(1/03)by tap out(0:15) Defeated Gomeo Boyd(1/17)by TKO(0:17) Defeated Mandingo(1/24) Defeated Denton Duphas(1/30) Defeated Manuel Rosado(2/21) Defeated Romeo Acuna(2/27) by submission(0:17) Defeated Miles O'Neal(3/10) Defeated Henry Akerwick(3/22) Defeated Sukari Kenfucu(6/1) Defeated Ichiyaka Nakunaga(6/ Defeated Gyyaku Hiiki(6/10) by choke(0:23) Defeated Bonquet Verdanoire(6/20) Defeated Jean Dobman(6/21) Defeated Boneture D'Marignon(6/23)by triangle choke(0:15) Defeated Lewis Crawston(7/14) Defeated Kaikari Okafuto(7/16) Defeated Dagumi Tsuari(8/7) Defeated Dagmar Valintin(9/6) Defeated Carey West(9/16) by TKO(0:19) Defeated Marc Gomes(10/02) by choke(0:09) Defeated Luis Cruz(10/06) by submission(0:11) Defeated Ernesto Gallio(10/15)by submission(0:09) Defeated Sergio Peralta(10/22)by tap out(0:06) Defeated Casanova Marcalino(10/29) by armbar (0:1 Defeated Walter Paez(11/16) by tap out(0:17) Defeated Fabio Quintanna(11/26) Defeated Raul Espinosa(11/30) Defeated Henri DasSilva(12/0 Defeated Wilfredo Silverstein(12/16) Defeated Milo Morra(12/22) by triangle chck(0:47) Defeated David Bloomberg(12/27) by TKO(0:12) Defeated Manolo Zerous(12/29) 1977: Defeated Hector Acevedo(1/14) Defeated Felix Zarza(2/25) Defeated Toshi Suzuki(3/31) Defeated Hepiliato Cillanos(4/03) Defeated Jack Vincense(4/20) Defeated Chatarogue Randez(5/1) Defeated Verd Verditure(5/10) Defeated Greg Denston(4/23) Defeated Dustin Edgerman(5/13) DefeatedCastine Fansine(7/5) Defeated Rend Voiturdier(7/9) Defeated Rougiedier Vinier(7/15) DefeatedAkikari Ichito(8/27) Defeated Gensetsu Arisop(9/10) Defeated David Cromworth(10/01) Defeated Bud Patterson(10/2 Defeated Eric Rudon(9/15) Defeated Ricardo Salinas(11/02) Defeated Bernardo Juas(11/05) Defeated Ken Osawara(11/07) Defeated Rio Kid(11/07) by tap out(0:26) Defeated Felix Cabrera(11/12) Defeated Robinson Crerew(11/16) by choke(0:5 Defeated Phil Bishop(11/23) by TKO(0:33) Defeated Rahman Benji(11/27) by tap out(0:17 Defeated Roberto Gomes(12/2 Defeated F.Reyes(12/29) Defeated Mario Sosa(12/31) 1978 Defeated Soyami Ashihi(1/17) Defeated Azutai Bano(3/24) Defeated Erin Campwell(6/2 Defeated Henry Huntman(7/6) Defeated Kansuki Naoaki(724) Defeated Lou Shefwick(7/24) Defeated Kotowara Ryoso(7/26) Defeated Yatai Heike(9/22) Defeated Alvacir Klein Defeated Euclidis Pendas Defeated Viror DeOliveira Defeated Roberto Morales Defeated Enzo Paulino Defeated Adalberto Gauisans Defeated Avelino Morones Defeated Edson Porcel Defeated Carlos Mazon Defeated Felix Rollo by triangle choke(0:13) Defeated Ernesto Dos Silva Defeated Pasqual Caceres Defeated Leo Figueroa by clock choke(0:09) Defeated Nevio DeLos Santos Defeated Angel Doria Defeated Fernando Acebal Defeated Piero Arocha Defeated Rudolfo Lara Defeated Felix Jamao Defeated Hitoshi Oki Defeated Tetsuo Sakai Defeated Masami Esashi Defeated Akira Horiguchi Defeated Koichi Fuji Defeated Toshiaki Yoshida Defeated Katsu Takechi Defeated Hideo Matsuaga Defeated Takao Nakatsu Defeated Masashi Saijyo 1979 Defeated David Ramirez-Diaz(2/12) Defeated Wilson Tao(2/13)by submission(0:56) Defeated Andarogue Bonouous(3/2) Defeated Spencer Boggton(3/14) Defeated Boni Verditina(4/5) Defeated Bayari Kotokuri(4/ Defeated Yogumi Okoya(5/3) Defeated Chati Verdavor(7/16) Defeated Shugami Omosho(7/19) Defeated Kenmari Ryooko(7/23) Defeated Jon Denworth(8/10) Defeated Nakuwaru Waashi(9/15) Defeated Yasaru Kyosu(10/11) Defeated Victor Barrera(10/12) Defeated Cesar Perez(10/14) Defeated Sugar Garcia(10/17) Defeated Memo Espinosa(10/19) Defeated Mario Solis(10/22) Defeated Chuy Bolanos(10/24) Defeated Carlos Ursua(10/26) Defeated Alfredo Borges(10/2 Defeated Baba Villa(10/30) Defeated Franco Gomez(11/07) Defeated Julio Rios(11/09) Defeated Choma Amancio(12/23) 1977: Defeated Hector Acevedo(1/14) Defeated Felix Zarza(2/25) Defeated Toshi Suzuki(3/31) Defeated Hepiliato Cillanos(4/03) Defeated Jack Vincense(4/20) Defeated Chatarogue Randez(5/1) Defeated Verd Verditure(5/10) Defeated Greg Denston(4/23) Defeated Dustin Edgerman(5/13) DefeatedCastine Fansine(7/5) Defeated Rend Voiturdier(7/9) Defeated Rougiedier Vinier(7/15) DefeatedAkikari Ichito(8/27) Defeated Gensetsu Arisop(9/10) Defeated David Cromworth(10/01) Defeated Bud Patterson(10/2 Defeated Eric Rudon(9/15) Defeated Ricardo Salinas(11/02) Defeated Bernardo Juas(11/05) Defeated Ken Osawara(11/07) Defeated Rio Kid(11/07) by tap out(0:26) Defeated Felix Cabrera(11/12) Defeated Robinson Crerew(11/16) by choke(0:5 Defeated Phil Bishop(11/23) by TKO(0:33) Defeated Rahman Benji(11/27) by tap out(0:17 Defeated Roberto Gomes(12/2 Defeated F.Reyes(12/29) Defeated Mario Sosa(12/31)
1979 Defeated David Ramirez-Diaz(2/12) Defeated Wilson Tao(2/13)by submission(0:56) Defeated Andarogue Bonouous(3/2) Defeated Spencer Boggton(3/14) Defeated Boni Verditina(4/5) Defeated Bayari Kotokuri(4/ Defeated Yogumi Okoya(5/3) Defeated Chati Verdavor(7/16) Defeated Shugami Omosho(7/19) Defeated Kenmari Ryooko(7/23) Defeated Jon Denworth(8/10) Defeated Nakuwaru Waashi(9/15) Defeated Yasaru Kyosu(10/11) Defeated Victor Barrera(10/12) Defeated Cesar Perez(10/14) Defeated Sugar Garcia(10/17) Defeated Memo Espinosa(10/19) Defeated Mario Solis(10/22) Defeated Chuy Bolanos(10/24) Defeated Carlos Ursua(10/26) Defeated Alfredo Borges(10/2 Defeated Baba Villa(10/30) Defeated Franco Gomez(11/07) Defeated Julio Rios(11/09) Defeated Choma Amancio(12/23)
1980 Defeated Zulu(1/23) Defeated Tortillo Navarro(10/02) Defeated Salvador Perez(10/02) Defeated Joe Morriera(/?/?) 1981 Defeated Ichimoto Taikyo(1/3) Defeated Ken Crawwright(3/2) Defeated Julio Hodgeston(3/5) Defeated Voiton Rougiertine(3/6) Defeated Bud Cunningham(3/13) Defeated David Akerham(3/1 Defeated Lewis Akerston(3/25) Defeated Azubishi Fukuki(4/1) Defeated Avel Rendutine(4/12) Defeated Enrique Garcia(5/5) Defeated Grisielyon Anton(5/23) Defeated Nitai Nagahi(6/2) Defeated Tsusuki Takushi(6/ Defeated Kuruitsu Sonaga(6/10) Defeated Rougero Magarogue(6/19)by tap out(8:27) Defeated Equada 1982 Defeated Sergio Penha Defeated Pedao Gaston(4/19) Defeated Randy Fairworth(4/21) Defeated Erin Cobwick(6/1) Defeated Shosumei Kaiki(6/6) Defeated Juan Kentston(6/9)by tap out(2:34) Defeated Defeated Marco Rendouture(6/15) Defeated Renda Verderogue(6/20) Defeated Gris Jean-Rendious(6/22) Defeated Bart Hartworth(7/7) Defeated Herbert Latham(8/6) Defeated Kantai Roaki(8/22) Defeated Kuru Kurata(10/20) Defeated Kanwara Itsumaka(10/27) 1983 Defeated Vinous Verdieson(1/2 Defeated Costine Bonutine(4/25) Defeated Verdouson Verdieuous(4/11) Defeated Dennis Hodgewell(5/17) Defeated Jon Kentwright(5/21) Defeated Jim Edgerwright(8/3) Defeated Fred Shefbel(9/10) Defeated George Cromley(9/12) 1984 Defeated Susetsu Ikiso(1/15) Defeated Zenio Prendes by armbar(3/2) Defeated Gus Campwood(3/7) Defeated Gymoto Kaai(4/23) Defeated Rendie Rodriguez(5/9) Defeated Mimari Ikugen((5/11) Defeated Koto Heikyo(6/3) Defeated Bayari Kaken(6/6) Defeated Verdaroux Vinquet(7/3) Defeated Mosetsu Banshu(8/10) Defeated Dustin Crawwood(10/23) 1985 Defeated Batai Dafuto(1/2) Defeated Pendao Andievous(4/11) Defeated Azugumi Shiya(5/12) Defeated Dan Campley(6/22) Defeated Jim Anderson(6/2 Defeated Dennis Akerley(6/7) Defeated Gotai Kinaku(6/14) Defeated Enrique Verdutine(7/14) Defeated Tom Baughwick(7/25) Defeated Rudy Hollings(8/19) Defeated Wasumei Omoka(9/21 1986 Defeated Joe Morriera Defeated Bud Cobman(4/9) Defeated Akikari Taazu(5/4) Defeated Dotaku Genka(5/17) Defeated Chato Verdalyon(6/12) Defeated Marcelo Costine(6/13) Defeated Sanchez Rodriguez(7/12) Defeated Jerome Jackson(7/25) Defeated Baitsu Nagakuru(9/7) Defeated Ralph Hollings(9/ Defeated Tom Campley(10/2) Defeated Mage Verdelet(10/15)
1987 Defeated Verd Rendienne(1/4) Defeated Yakusu Akita(1/14) Defeated Wasuki Kanmo(1/19) Defeated Ralph Edgerbel(3/1) Defeated Defeated Bono Rendietat(6/5) Defeated Grisu Chataoutat(6/14) Defeated Iku Shohei(8/2 Defeated Frank Cobston(10/10) Defeated Willie Cunnington(10/11) Defeated Farutaku Kiju(10/11) 1988 Defeated Okodari Heiju Defeated Genyaku Ashiho(3/21) Defeated Brad Campwood(4/25) Defeated Bono Chaterue(6/2) Defeated Grist Magoutine(6/9) Defeated Enrique Rouguson(6/13) Defeated Gristo Marad(6/2 Defeated Hugo Duarte(7/5) Defeated Eric Henderley(7/1 Defeated Itsumoru Gyhi(8/27) Defeated Gabe Wenwright(10/1 Defeated Louis Poisette(10/19) 1989 Defeated Zulu(1/19) Defeated Roug Rodriguez(4/14) Defeated Royari Nagaso(5/1 Defeated Kuruyari Akihei(8/4) Defeated Rudy Cunningwell(10/3) Defeated Bob Hartston(10/ Defeated Vino Andoulet(10/22) 1990 Defeated Rigan Machado Defeated Rigan Machado Defeated Fabio Gurgel Defeated Robert Anderley(3/11) Defeated Anda Verdetine(5/6) Defeated Okayami Maari(5/20)by submission Defeated Shotokau Nakukyo(6/12) Defeated Juan Hodgeman(6/13) Defeated Tayami Gokyo(8/16) Defeated Julio Jackson(8/1 Defeated Andi Duque(10/11) 1991 Defeated Joel Farmer(3/14)by choke Defeated Steve Parkinson(6/16)by choke Defeated Bankari Azuki(6/23)by choke Defeated Tosaru Azuho(7/4) Defeated Gus Kently(10/1) Defeated Andu Bonier(10/16) Defeated Rigan Machado(/?) Defeated Rigan Machado(?) 1992 Defeated Mark Huntbel(3/2) Defeated Naga Rokoto(3/23) Defeated Aritai Ryoyo(4/16)by tap out Defeated Roy Cartwell(4/23)by submission Defeated Dueton Voitious(5/4)by choke(0:17) Defeated Chata Mortelle(5/14) Defeated Gabe Langbel(5/16) Defeated Bart Cunningley(7/7)by tap out(0:32) Defeated Gris Rendounoire(7/11) Defeated Kenmoto Hoichi(7/12) Defeated Nakusetsu Juso(7/27)by clock choke (1:05) Defeated Taimoto Yashi(8/17) Defeated Anda Chatinoire(9/7) Defeated Louis Crawbel(9/22)by armbar(0:47) Defeated Joel Norwick(9/25) Defeated Basitsu Maken(10/17) Defeated Kyobishi Shiyo(10/17) Defeated Avage Griselynon(10/22) 1993 Defeated Nick Baturin by tap out(0:46) Fought Ron Tripp/Outcome still pending 1994 Defeated Mark Schultz Defeated Yoshinon Nishi(9/9)by choke Defeated David Leviki(9/9)by tap out Defeated Bud Smith(9/9)by choke 1995 Defeated Koichiro Kimura(4/20)by choke Defeated Yoshihisa Yamamoto(4/20)by choke Defeated Yukai Nakai(4/20)by choke Defeated Yuki Nakai(9/1 Defeated Yoji Anjo(12/21) 1996-inactive 1997 Defeated Nobuhiko Tukada(10/11) 1998 Defeated Nobuhiko Tukada(10/11) 1999 Exhibition with Royler Gracie(4/29)exch. in Japan. 2000 Defeated Masakatsu Funaki(5/26)
Walki Bjj/VT, MMa

TOTAL MATCHES 410 won: 410 lost:0 draw:0

[applejuicekid]

Why would Rickson fight Fedor? They're different weight classes.

[sinfulslick18]

was gracie the guy that would wrap his legs around you and let you punch the life out of him while gracie sits there and takes it. Then after his opponent is worn down he would try to fight?

[Luzion]

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Pride lacks the cage which makes the ground fighting better.
Pride also has red cards, or whatever color they are, which deduct 10% of a fighter's pay for inactivity during the fight.
Also, Pride allows stomps to the head of a downed opponent.
Plus, the fighters are just plain better.

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Yup... forcing action is always a good thing

[KDawgCometh]

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Why would Rickson fight Fedor? They're different weight classes.

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rickson was always a heavyweight, a bit on the light side, and would probably cut down to 205 now a days, but he certainly was bigger then royce who would've faught at 185 in todays weight classes

[-Skeme-]

That list means nothing. He's never fought anybody in MMA that has a good record. He's fought all cans with horrible losing records. Go to Sherdog and ask about your pal Rickson.

[applejuicekid]

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He's never fought anybody in MMA that has a good record.

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Funaki?????

Besides, records don't mean that much in MMA. A lot of cans have good records, and a lot of really good fighters have medicore ones.

Rickson is the greatest fighter of all time. If he lost a fight, we would have heard about it. 410-0 is an amazing feat even if they were all tomato cans.

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Go to Sherdog and ask about your pal Rickson.

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LOL....No, that's a terrible site.

[-Skeme-]

The actual site is great. It has a record of all MMA fights, can't beat that. And that record isn't impressive when you only fight scrubs and cans. He counts SPARRING MATCHES against his students and crap. That's not a real fight. Rickson is a turd.

[jkkkk]

Pride > UFC and it isn't even close.

[KDawgCometh]

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Pride > UFC and it isn't even close.

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i don't think that anyone here is disputing that

[KDawgCometh]

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The actual site is great. It has a record of all MMA fights, can't beat that. And that record isn't impressive when you only fight scrubs and cans. He counts SPARRING MATCHES against his students and crap. That's not a real fight. Rickson is a turd.

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meh, I've never been too much of a fan of sherdog. THey are a little elitest about MMA and can be accuesed of ignoring facts or other point of view's when it comes to things(i can't really think of anything off hand, but I haven't had the greatest experiences there).

DVD's MMA section isn't bad, but dvd posters can get really tied up in who they like and you can't convince them of anything else. I got banned from there two or three years ago that you can't compare a small wreslting promotion like Ring Of Honor fully to a big promotion like NOAH. I can go into it further as it was a real silly banning if anyone wants to PM me, dean acted like a real baby about it

[Army Eye]

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That list means nothing. He's never fought anybody in MMA that has a good record. He's fought all cans with horrible losing records. Go to Sherdog and ask about your pal Rickson.

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Please don't bring that Sherdog propaganda in here.

First of all, Rickson beat Masakatsu Funaki who has a great record (38-11). Destroyed him, quite frankly. And he did that at the age of 41.


Rickson of course is not going to have a sterling resume of wins against top MMA talent, when MMA barely even registered as a viable sport in Rickson's days. It still doesn't mean he wasn't an amazing fighter. He took on anyone who came into his dojo and challenged him, never losing. He was undefeated in sport jiu-jitsu, world champ for something like 15 years.

With a comment like "Rickson is a turd" or "wuss" (comments that any real fighter would double over laughing at), I imagine you are right at home in Sherdog where everyone is a fanboy and trashes each other's fighters nonstop. Try to keep that stuff out of here though.

[trying2learn]

sorry to be so n00bish, but is rickson royce's father? i know nothing of the sport to be honest, but i do remember royce gracie fighting in the early days of UFC (at least early as in, that's when i started watching it).

[KDawgCometh]

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sorry to be so n00bish, but is rickson royce's father? i know nothing of the sport to be honest, but i do remember royce gracie fighting in the early days of UFC (at least early as in, that's when i started watching it).

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rickson is royce's older brother. ROyler is younger then royce. Helio is the father of them. Renzo and Ryan are their first cousins(I think they might be carlson's sons)

[Rev. Good Will]

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The actual site is great. It has a record of all MMA fights, can't beat that. And that record isn't impressive when you only fight scrubs and cans. He counts SPARRING MATCHES against his students and crap. That's not a real fight. Rickson is a turd.

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RICKSON GRACIE
Brazil, South America JuJitsu
5ft. 10inch. 185lbs. Born: 1959.
1973:
Defeated Mike Jackworth(1/23)
Defeated Grisoulyon(2/16)
Defeated Dennis Hackman(2/17)
Defeated Ikusho((3/28)
Defeated Miguel Boggwright(4/2)
Defeated Francho Rendurogue(4/6)
Defeated Ted Tackman(4/6)
Defeated Steve Kentman(4/20)
Defeated Dadan Ryomu(5/14)
Defeated Dadan Ryomu(5/24)
Defeated Ando Voiter(6/23)
Defeated Frank Kentwick(7/14)
Defeated Kuru Nisho(9/12)
Defeated Gris Rendignon(11/4)
Defeated Titon Rougilet(11/6)
1974
Defeated Chat Chavez(1/3)
Defeated Enrique Chatetat(2/3)
Defeated Beau Roug(2/10)
Defeated Beau Roug(2/11)
Defeated Bawaru Kito(2/23)
Defeated Ken Azumu(3/28)
Defeated Shane Cartbel(4/27)
Defeated Roug Jeanette(5/1)
Defeated Gris Kendardler(5/9)
Defeated Voit Rendardier(5/17)
Defeated Fernando Anddison(5/25)
Defeated Wayami Hihi(6/7)
Defeated Tais Futomo(7/1)
Defeated Brad Hodgewick(9/6)
Defeated Fukuyari Roso((10/16)
DefeatedTsumari Arikyo(10/16)
Defeated Hank Crawford(12/17)
1975
Defeated Aisu Kyokuri(1/28)
Defeated Ikisaru Yono(2/9)
Defeated Jean Jackwood(2/11)
Defeated Jean Jackwood(2/14)
Defeated Ichi Gengy(2/17)
Defeated Tatai Futoyo(2/21)
Defeated Roug Andetat(2/21)
Defeated Eric Crawston(3/13)
Defeated Ban Nakushu(3/23)
Defeated Ban Nakushu(3/23)
Defeated Rudy oggwood(3/28)
Defeated Joel Hodgeton(4/23)
Defeated Joel Hodgeton(4/25)
Defeated Spencer Cartwood(5/18)
Defeated Jean Dobman(6/21)
Defeated Ref Chaturue(7/7)
Defeated Jon Campham(7/24)
Defeated Bob Fairwood(8/20)
Defeated Bob Fairwood(8/27)
Defeated Julio Bonardier(10/2)
Defeated Musumei Azuki(11/2)
Defeated Berdatat Renelle(11/9)
1976
Defeated John Fairwood(2/1)
Defeated A.Orton(2/3)
Defeated H.Tagy(2/5)
Defeated Okayaki Niwa(2/5)
Defeated F.Grisurogue(2/5)
Defeated Iku Suki(2/22)
Defeated Iku Suki(2/28)
Defeated Henri Akerwick(3/22)
Defeated R.Verdanoire(5/6)
Defeated S.Kenfuru(6/7)
Defeated I.Nakunaga(6/8)
Defeated I.Nakunaga(6/9)
Defeated Gy Hiiki(6/10)
Defeated Bone Marignon(6/23)
Defeated Lewis Crawston(7/14)
Defeated Kai Okafuto(7/16)
Defeated Dagumi Tsuari(8/7)
Defeated Misu Hokkai(10/11)
Defeated Doug Jackson(10/27)
Defeated Marcelo Bonous(11/25)
Defeated Yaku Sushi(12/19)
Defeated Hank Cunningworth(12/23)
1977:
Defeated Ikigami Nimu(2/3)
Defeated Christopher Cromston(2/10)
Defeated V.Salluton(3/28)
Defeated Gregoryu Denston(4/23)
Defeated A.Verdirue(5/1)
Defeated Dustin Edgerman(5/13)
Defeated William Shefton(6/6)
Defeated Matthew Vickers(6/28)
Defeated Castine Fansine(7/5)
Defeated R.Voitardier(7/9)
Defeated R.Vinier(7/15)
Defeated Akikari Ichito(8/27)
Defeated G.Ariso(9/10)
Defeated Eric Rudson(9/15)
Defeated Bart Rudwright(10/?)
Defeated David Cromworth(10/1)
Defeated O. Juhei(10/8)
Defeated Bud Patterson(10/28)
Defeated Kyo Ikikuru(11/22)
Defeated Keith Campman(11/22)
Defeated Bone Avquet(12/10)
1978:
Defeated: Soyami Ashihi(1/17)
Defeated Anda Rendesen(2/1)
Defeated Mudari Shuho(2/1)
Defeated Fantine Chatoudier(2/1)
Defeated Larry Cunningwick(2/7)
Defeated Rennie Chatuvous(2/13)
Defeated Shane Dobson(2/24)
Defeated Hank Cromwood(2/27)
Defeated Azutai Bano(3/24)
Defeated Erin Campwell(6/28)
Defeated Henry Huntman(7/6)
Defeated Kan Naoaki(7/24)
Defeated Koto Ryoso(7/26)
Defeated Lou Shevic(7/28)
Defeated Yatai Heika(9/22)
Defeated Micheal Hartick(12/28)
1979:
Defeated Sanchez Voiten(2/11)
Defeated Julio Grisuson(2/11)
Defeated Mort Chatatine(2/21)
Defeated Anda Nonivous(2/21)
Defeated Spencer Boogton(3/2)
Defeated B.Verditine(4/5)
Defeated Naya Kotokuri(4/8)
Defeated Shuyami Fukuda(4/20)
Defeated Y.Okoya(5/3)
Defeated C.Verdavoir(7/16)
Defeated S.Omosho(7/19)
Defeated Ken Ryooko(7/23)
Defeated Johnny Denworth(8/10)
Defeated N.Wasshi(9/15)
Defeated Y.Kyosu(10/11)
Defeated Sean Scfman(11/??)
Defeated Rendurue Verdeson(11/8)
1980:
Defeated Sergio Penha by choke(year/date uncertain)
Defeated Ken Musho(1/14)
Defeated Zulu(140-0-0) by choke(1/23)
Defeated Lou Anette(3/14)
Defeated Roug Verdulet(3/23)
Defeated Somoto Hiryo(5/3)
Defeated R.Rougirue(5/18)
Defeated Gogumi Nihi(6/1)
Defeated James Langwick(6/25)
Defeated Spencer Longley(6/26)
Defeated Tagami Ainao(7/18)
Defeated Gotaku Yonaga(8/22)
Defeated Peter Long(9/2)
Defeated H.Kantsu(9/7)
Defeated Fred Langton(9/7)
Defeated Sean Tackson(9/19)
Defeated George Hackley(11/2)
Defeated S.Genazu(11/9)
Defeated B.Dokan(11/14)
Defeated C.Rougerue(12/1)
Defeated J.Huntworth(12/1)
1981:
Defeated Eric White(2/?)
Defeated Dustin Crawman(2/6)
Defeated Susumei Kano(2/18)
Defeated Ken Cauwright(3/2)
Defeated Julio Hodgeston(3/5)
Defeated Voiton Rougietine(3/6)
Defeated Bud Cunningwood(3/13)
Defeated David Akerman(3/18)
Defeated Roy Cunningwood(3/23)
Defeated Lewis Akerston(3/25)
Defeated Azubishi Fukuji(4/10)
Defeated Avel Rendutine(4/12)
Defeated Enrique Garcia(5/5)
Defeated Gris Anton(5/23)
Defeated Nitai Nagahi(6/2)
Defeated Tsuski Yakushi(6/8)
Defeated Kuru Sonaga(6/10)
Defeated Roug Magarogue(6/19)
Defeated Andison Vinage(11/7)
Defeated Andre Rendilet(12/6)
1982:
Defeated Pendao Gaston((4/19)
Defeated Randy Fair(4/21)
Defeated Erin Cobic(6/1)
Defeated Juan Kentson(6/9)
Defeated Marco Rendou(6/15)
Defeated .Kaiki((6/16)
Defeated R.Verderogue(6/20)
Defeated G.Jean-Rendious(6/22)
Defeated Bart Hart(7/7)
Defeated Herb Latham(8/6)
Defeated K.Roaki((8/22)
Defeated Y.Bafiku(10/8)
Defeated Franco Chate(10/10)
Defeated K.Kuruta(10/22)
Defeated Kan Itsunaku(10/27)
Defeated A. Chavez(11/16)
Defeated David Long(11/17)
Defeated Mago Jeanette(11/23)
Defeated R.Kanshu(12/6)
1983:
Defeated S.Kyoju(1/25)
Defeated Vin Verdieson(1/28)
Defeated Costine Bontutine
Defeated Mortier Chatudier(2/28)
Defeated Verd Verdievous(4/11)
Defeated Denny Hodgewell(5/17)
Defeated John Kent(5/21)
Defeated Jim Edger(8/3)
Defeated Fred Shefbel(9/10)
Defeated George Cromley(9/12)
Defeated John Aker(10/10)
Defeated B.Omonaku(10/26)
Defeated Erin Kromford(10/27)
Defeated D.Baryo(11/1)
Defeated Itsubishi Akikyo(11/11)
Defeated Brad Lang(12/27)
Defeated M.Kanyo(12/28)
1984:
Defeated S.Ikiso(1/15)
Defeated Frank Cartman(2/8)
Defeated H.Ryoka(2/9)
Defeated S.Ikuso(2/13)
Defeated Vinni Rendavous(2/21)
Defeated Gus Camp(3/7)
Defeated G. Kaai(4/23)
Defeated R.Rodriguez(5/9)
Defeated M.Ikugen(5/11)
Defeated K.Heikyo(6/3)
Defeated B.Kaken(6/6)
Defeated V.Vinquet(7/3)
Defeated M.Banshu(8/10)
Defeated Dustin Craw(10/23)
Defeated M.Escobar(11/7)
Defeated S.Banmi(11/24)
1985:
Defeated B.Dafuto(1/2)
Defeated Pendao Andiev(4/11)
Defeated A.Shiya(5/12)
Defeated Dennis Akerle(6/7)
Defeated G.Kinaku(6/14)
Defeated Danny Capley(6/22)
Defeated Jim Atkinson(6/28)
Defeated Enrique Verdu(7/140
Defeated Tommy Baugh(7/25)
Defeated Rudy Hollings(8/19)
Defeated W.Omoka(9/21)
Defeated Dave Langwell(10/11)
Defeated Matthew Akerwood(11/3)
Defeated Gabe Shefford(11/11)
Defeated C.Rougourogue(11/20)
Defeated Fred Edgerston(12/3)
1986:
Defeated C. Voiette(3/1)
Defeated Bud Cobman(4/9)
Defeated A.Taazu(5/4)
Defeated D.Genka(5/17)
Defeated C.Verdalyon(6/12)
Defeated Marcelo Costine(6/13)
Defeated Sanchez Rougire(7/12)
Defeated Jerome Jackson(7/25)
Defeated V.Nagakuru(9/7)
Defeated Ralph Hollings(9/8)
Defeated Tom Campley(10/2)
Defeated Bradley Clarke(10/10)
Defeated Magevoir(10/15)
Defeated Koto Tanaku(11/18)
Defeated Randy Davidson(12/28)
1987:
Defeated V.Rendienne(1/4)
Defeated Yakusumei Akita(1/14)
Defeated Wasu Kano(1/19)
Defeated Shuyaki Waba(2/14)
Defeated Ralph Edger(3/1)
Defeated Enrique Bono(3/24)
Defeated Bonoulet Rendietat(6/5)
Defeated G.Chatoutat(6/14)
Defeated Jeno Hardwich(6/16)
Defeated Peter Cobston(7/2)
Defeated I.Shohei(8/28)
Defeated Frank Cobston(10/10)
Defeated F.Kiju(10/11)
Defeated William Cunnington(10/11)
Defeated Gabriel Boughem(11/20)
Defeated Thomas Jackson(12/18)
1988:
Defeated Steve Norton(2/5)
Defeated Julio Guilette(2/14)
Defeated O.Heiju(3/2)
Defeated Enrique Rouguson(3/13)
Defeated Genya Ashiho(3/21)
Defeated Bradford Campwood(4/25)
Defeated C.Randez(5/1)
Defeated C.Causton(5/14)
Defeated B.Chaterue(6/2)
Defeated Enrique Rouguson(6/13)
Defeated Grisvald Magoutin(6/9)
Defeated Grisvald Magoutin(6/24)
Defeated Hugo Duarte by submission(7/5)
Defeated Eric Henderly(7/18)
Defeated Itsu Gyhi(8/27)
Defeated Gabe DenWright(10/18)
Defeated Louis Poisett(10/19)
Defeated B.Gassine(10/24)
Defeated Jerome Hartson(11/3)
Defeated Steven Shefwood(11/12)
Defeated R.Chatiroux(12/8)
Defeated A.Sufuru(12/14)
Defeated Rafeal Crobel(12/24)
1989:
Defeated Zulu by choke(1/19)
Defeated T.Heishi(1/27)
Defeated Tamari Shiomo(2/4)
Defeated Dustin Shevel(2/19)
Defeated Iku Kurimi(2/20)
Defeated Marcelo Bonoutine(2/27)
Defeated Rougason Rodriguez(4/14)
Defeated R.Rougoutine(5/18)
Defeated R.Nagaso(5/18)
Defeated M.Shoshi(7/26)
Defeated K.Akihei(8/4)
Defeated Rudy Well(10/3)
Defeated Robert Hartston(10/8)
Defeated W.Kata(10/21)
Defeated Vinous Andoulet(10/22)
Defeated Bonidier Rendedier(11/23)
1990:
Defeated K.Kurusu(1/25)
Defeated W.Ryo(2/3)
Defeated G.Marienne(3/10)
Defeated B.Rougaroux(3/26)
Defeated A.Verdetine(5/6)
Defeated Robert Anderley(5/11)
Defeated O.Maari(5/20)
Defeated S.Nakukuo(6/12)
Defeated John Hodgeham(6/13)
Defeated W.Suwa(7/9)
Defeated T.Gokyo(8/16)
Defeated Julian Jackson(8/18)
Defeated Marage Duque(10/8)
Defeated A.Duque(10/11)
Defeated K.Akinaga(11/14)
Defeated K.Akisu(12/24)
1991:
Defeated Furu Kurushu(1/13)
Defeated Mogami Okaba(1/24)
Defeated Gen Mafuka(1/25)
Defeated Bangam Tsufuto(2/8)
Defeated Rendouson Verdiroux(2/9)
Defeated K.Kioko(2/12)
Defeated Joel Farmer(3/14)
Defeated Steven Parkinson(6/16)
Defeated Bankari Azujki(6/23)
Defeated Tosaru Azuho(7/4)
Defeated Gus Kentley(10/1)
Defeated Andu Bonier(10/26)
Defeated Koto Goazu(12/2)
Defeated Louis Hackston(12/9)
Defeated Randall Stephens(12/18)
1992:
Defeated Itsuwaru Juto(2/3)
Defeated Grisieson Mortous(2/21)
Defeated Mark Hunt(3/2)
Defeated Nagagumi Rokoto(3/23)
Defeated Aritai Ryoyo(4/16)
Defeated Roy Cartwell(4/23)
Defeated Dueton Voitious(5/4)
Defeated Gabe Langbel(5/11)
Defeated Chatajean Mortelle(5/14)
Defeated Baert Cunningley(7/7)
Defeated Grisievous Rendounoire(7/11)
Defeated Kenmoto Hoichi(7/12)
Defeated Nakusetsu Juso(7/27)
Defeated Taimoto Yashi(8/17)
Defeated Andajean Chatinoire(9/7)
Defeated Louis Crawbel(9/22)
Defeated Joel Norwick(9/25)
Defeated Kyobishi Shiyo(10/17)
Defeated Basitsu Maken(10/17
Defeated Avage Griselyon(10/22)
Defeated Marco Chatitine(11/18)
Defeated Verdalyon Grisieroux(12/15)
1993:
Defeated 24 opponents in one day(date/year uncertain)
Defeated Todd Haezle(*Year/date uncertain)
Defeated 11 opponents in challenge matches(7/24)
Defeated Nick Batrrin by choke-Sambo match
Result Uncertain? Ron Tripp
(USA Sambo Nationals: Norman, Oklahoma)
1994:
Defeated Mark Schultz by choke
Defeated Yoshinon Nishi by choke(9/9)
Defeated David Leviki by knockout(9/9)
Defeated Bud Smith by tap out due to punches(9/9)
1995:
Defeated Koichiro Kimura by choke(4/20)
Defeated Yoshihisa Yamamoto by choke(4/20)
Defeated Yuki Nakai by choke(4/20)
Defeated Yuki Nakai by choke(9/18)
Defeated Yoji Anjo by submission(12/21)
1997:
Defeated Nobuhiko Tukada by armbar(10/11)
1998:
Defeated Nobuhiko Tukada by armbar(10/11)
2000:
Defeated Masakatsu Funaki(5/26)
TOTAL BOUTS WON LOST
418 418 0
*Believed to be complete record.Compiled from videos, magazines, newspaper clippings, internet sites. (*May contain errors/post concerns/comments on Message Board)


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