A tough(?) river value bet for sfer. [Archive]

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Jeff W

08-19-2005, 10:23 PM

Villain is 66/0.8/0.3 over 122 hands. Maybe this isn't as tough as I think, but it sure was uncomfortable.

Party Poker Hold'em (10 handed)

Preflop: Jeff W is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/club.gif, J/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls, 1 fold, Jeff W raises, 5 folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, UTG+1 checks, Jeff W bets, BB calls, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (4.25 BB) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Jeff W bets, BB calls.

River: (6.25 BB) 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Jeff W bets.

shant

08-19-2005, 10:26 PM

I would just like to say I'm loving these posts. I think there should be a contest for thinnest value-bet and the winner gets a t-shirt.

kurosh

08-19-2005, 10:44 PM

Do value raises count?

Party Poker 3/6 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is MP with J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero raises, 3 folds, BB 3-bets, Hero caps, BB calls.

Flop: (8.33 SB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets, BB calls.

Turn: (5.16 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero calls.

River: (7.16 BB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB bets, Hero raises, BB calls.

Final Pot: 11.16 BB

Results in white below: 
BB has Js 8s (three of a kind, fives).
Hero has Jd Qc (three of a kind, fives).
Outcome: Hero wins 11.16 BB.

sfer

08-19-2005, 10:45 PM

Me likey. He's calling with any pair and the Ace is just one of those pairs he could have.

Luv2DriveTT

08-19-2005, 10:53 PM

Nice one Jeff, still a little chuncky around the middle. Lets see thinner /images/graemlins/grin.gif

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

Jeff W

08-19-2005, 10:58 PM

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Nice one Jeff, still a little chuncky around the middle. Lets see thinner /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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Honestly, I'm looking through all my hands and I have a lot of room for improvement in my value betting.

Jeff W

08-19-2005, 11:04 PM

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Lets see thinner /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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This one is okay, but when I'm on my game I can make value bets like this with ease:

BB is LAG. Other player is semi-fish(30/11/1.3 over 1500 hands).

Party Poker Hold'em (9 handed)

Preflop: Jeff is UTG with 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
Jeff raises, 1 fold, MP1 calls, 5 folds, BB calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif (3 players)
BB bets, Jeff raises, MP1 calls, BB calls.

Turn: (6.25 BB) T/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Jeff bets, MP1 calls, BB calls.

River: (9.25 BB) 2/images/graemlins/club.gif (3 players)
BB checks, Jeff bets.

PokerSparky

08-19-2005, 11:07 PM

I suck. I wouldn't have bet the river.

Luv2DriveTT

08-19-2005, 11:25 PM

wow... now THATS a good value bet. Excellent. This is very different from Sfer's post, I think his was an excellent river bet but it wasn't for value.

TT /images/graemlins/club.gif

brettbrettr

08-20-2005, 02:55 AM

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I would just like to say I'm loving these posts. I think there should be a contest for thinnest value-bet and the winner gets a t-shirt.

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How's this:

party 5/10, I'm in the BB with 8 /images/graemlins/club.gif7 /images/graemlins/club.gif

MP (unknown limps), LP sb calls, I check.

Flop 4 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif5 /images/graemlins/spade.gif K /images/graemlins/heart.gif

SB checks, I bet, MP folds, SB calls.

Turn: 8 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

check-bet-call.

River: T /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Check-bet-call.

Thin, huh?

ArturiusX

08-20-2005, 03:11 AM

None of these are thin /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Justin A

08-20-2005, 01:35 PM

Come back when you're valuebetting with AQ unimproved. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

TenEightOff

08-20-2005, 02:02 PM

Hows this one...
Both blinds are loosey goosey and will defend with any.
1 limp and a raise, I 3 bet on button with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gifT/images/graemlins/heart.gif

Both blinds call as do the rest 5 to flop.
Flop:J/images/graemlins/heart.gif8/images/graemlins/heart.gif6/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Checks to me I bet, 2 callers.
Turn:J/images/graemlins/club.gif
Checks to me I bet, 1 call
River:9/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Check, bet, call

Jeff W

08-20-2005, 02:04 PM

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Come back when you're valuebetting with AQ unimproved. /images/graemlins/grin.gif

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AQ-High value bet (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=smallholdem&Number=2600251 &Forum=f3&Words=-re%3A&Searchpage=0&Limit=255&Main=2600251&Search=t rue&where=bodysub&Name=11131&daterange=1&newerval= 1&newertype=y&olderval=&oldertype=&bodyprev=#Post2 600251)

Intent

08-20-2005, 02:04 PM

It's 1/2 6max, do I still get credit? /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Party Poker 1/2 Hold'em (6 max, 6 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
Hero raises, 2 folds, Button 3-bets, 2 folds, Hero caps, Button calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Turn: (5.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

River: (7.75 BB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif (2 players)
Hero bets, Button calls.

Final Pot: 9.75 BB

Results in white below: 
Hero has Qd Ad (one pair, nines).
Button has Jc Ac (one pair, nines).
Outcome: Hero wins 9.75 BB.