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08-19-2005, 05:28 PM
MP3 is TA/P.

Ultimate Bet 0.50/1 Hold'em (10 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, MP3 calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, Hero checks.

Flop: (2.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises</font>, Hero calls.

Turn: (3.25 BB) 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

River: (5.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, MP3 calls.

Final Pot: 7.25 BB

GrunchCan
08-19-2005, 05:30 PM
I raise PF.

Why did you donk the turn?

08-19-2005, 05:43 PM
c/c the turn?

LoaferGee12
08-19-2005, 05:44 PM
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I raise PF.

Why did you donk the turn?

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I think this is a very good use of Stop n Go. He stops the possible freecard and can pitch it safely to another raise.

Shillx
08-19-2005, 05:45 PM
Nice hand. What is the problem?

Brad

GrunchCan
08-19-2005, 05:46 PM
Yep, I agree.

08-19-2005, 05:46 PM
What do you mean by stop n go?

GrunchCan
08-19-2005, 05:47 PM
Hero's action (bet-call/bet) on the flop &amp; turn is called a stop &amp; go.

Runin
08-19-2005, 05:54 PM
I'd raise this preflop but after that I think it looks pretty good. Be interesting to see what more people think.

08-19-2005, 06:25 PM
I guess what I really want to know is if this hand is +EV. Does a passive post flop player raise the flop here with a hand that we beat often enough to continue with the hand? It seems that im getting killed with hands like this. Is it variance or bad play? Mabye this is a fold to the flop raise?

Redd
08-19-2005, 06:59 PM
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I guess what I really want to know is if this hand is +EV. Does a passive post flop player raise the flop here with a hand that we beat often enough to continue with the hand?

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Heads-up, even a passive player can raise just about any pair. Especially a passive microlimit player.

LoaferGee12
08-19-2005, 07:17 PM
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I guess what I really want to know is if this hand is +EV. Does a passive post flop player raise the flop here with a hand that we beat often enough to continue with the hand?

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Heads-up, even a passive player can raise just about any pair. Especially a passive microlimit player.

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Not to mention flushdraw.

08-19-2005, 07:23 PM
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I guess what I really want to know is if this hand is +EV. Does a passive post flop player raise the flop here with a hand that we beat often enough to continue with the hand?

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Heads-up, even a passive player can raise just about any pair. Especially a passive microlimit player.

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Not to mention flushdraw.

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So you guys, think this line of play is ok? Why am I losing all the time ?

LoaferGee12
08-19-2005, 07:25 PM
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I guess what I really want to know is if this hand is +EV. Does a passive post flop player raise the flop here with a hand that we beat often enough to continue with the hand?

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Heads-up, even a passive player can raise just about any pair. Especially a passive microlimit player.

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Not to mention flushdraw.

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So you guys, think this line of play is ok? Why am I losing all the time ?

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You give us 1 hand that you played fine and expect us to tell us why you're losing? Cmon /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Saint_D
08-19-2005, 11:08 PM
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So you guys, think this line of play is ok? Why am I losing all the time ?

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Just a guess but:

You are too lose pre flop. You go to far with marginal hands. You fold on the river too much when you are ahead. You don't know how to value bet. The poker gods hate you and you are a fish.

Oh, wait. That's my problem. I would be willing to bet it's one or more of the above, most people have those problems.

-D

apaugust
08-19-2005, 11:39 PM
Did mp3 have AJ?

08-19-2005, 11:42 PM
A 10