News: WTO gives US time to obey gaming law

[Warik]

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WTO gives US time over gaming law
The United States has until April 2006 to obey a ruling about cross-border gaming on the internet, the World Trade Organisation (WTO) has ordered.

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Full Story (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/4167732.stm)

This country ignores everything else the rest of the world says, so why not this, too?

[Warik]

True, the point is that at least someone out there is trying to look out for our rights. This may not affect any of us since there are plenty of poker sites operating out of places other than Antigua, but there's no way that this action by the WTO can be considered a bad thing for online gaming.

The more enemies against the US's gambling restrictions (and proposed restrictions) the better.

[Wake up CALL]

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True, the point is that at least someone out there is trying to look out for our rights.

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The last time I checked our constitution has no guarantee to the right to play online poker. Also they are't looking out for anyones' "rights". They are looking to make money off the American pokerplayers. Please at least get this straight.

[HRFats]

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True, the point is that at least someone out there is trying to look out for our rights.

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The last time I checked our constitution has no guarantee to the right to play online poker. Also they are't looking out for anyones' "rights". They are looking to make money off the American pokerplayers. Please at least get this straight.

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Correct but it this is not a Constitution issue. If gambling is legal in Nevada, Atlantic City and countless other places in the United States - not to mention Bingo Halls and the Multi State Lottery, then why should online poker be banned? It makes no sense.

[TemetNosce]

Harumph, harumph, harumph

[Rasputin]

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True, the point is that at least someone out there is trying to look out for our rights.

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The last time I checked our constitution has no guarantee to the right to play online poker. Also they are't looking out for anyones' "rights". They are looking to make money off the American pokerplayers. Please at least get this straight.

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Correct but it this is not a Constitution issue. If gambling is legal in Nevada, Atlantic City and countless other places in the United States - not to mention Bingo Halls and the Multi State Lottery, then why should online poker be banned? It makes no sense.

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What does making sense have to do with the situation?

[TheNoodleMan]

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True, the point is that at least someone out there is trying to look out for our rights.

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The last time I checked our constitution has no guarantee to the right to play online poker. Also they are't looking out for anyones' "rights". They are looking to make money off the American pokerplayers. Please at least get this straight.

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Last time I checked the constitution, I noticed some fine print that said <font color="red">Ducks must wear long pants</font> , so obviously, things have changed a bit since it was written.

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A search for Ducks must wear long pants turned up this interesting site. (http://alwayslazy.comicgenesis.com/handjob/index.html)

[tubalkain]

This just in: US gives WTO five minutes to go to hell. News at eleven.

[TTChamp]

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Additionally, US federal laws barred the placing of bets across state lines by electronic means, preventing Antiguan online gambling companies from accessing US customers.



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Does this mean that I am violating federal law by playing online poker?

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Additionally, US federal laws barred the placing of bets across state lines by electronic means, preventing Antiguan online gambling companies from accessing US customers.



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Does this mean that I am violating federal law by playing online poker?

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Probably. Of course, you're violating the law in a number of US states any time you have oral sex. The US is full of dumbass laws that everybody breaks.

[ChoicestHops]

Partygaming needs to use some of those billions its worth and make some lawmakers happy here in the states.

[Quicksilvre]

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Does this mean that I am violating federal law by playing online poker?

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Yes. However, the Justice Department does not prosecute individual players.

Because it IS all about $, that would normally be an automatic for the current administration. Except now that no American companies are involved due to the undefined US policy which has kept US based casinos off the internet - there is much less incentive. Further, a ban it could be a would be a nice bone for Bush to throw to the holier than Jesus crowd that makes up his base.

However, the one thing that poker players have going for us is that the aforementioned religious right is nothing, if not, hyprocritical. And they, like virtues guru Bill Bennett, love to gamble as much as anyone.

Conclusion: I think there is a greater chance of the rapture occurring before poker is banned and made illegal. And if that happens, it will likely be too hot to play anyways.

[ChoicestHops]

I just dont see it happening. There's billions in the online business and money is a very powerful ally against a law against gambling.

[tomdemaine]

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Partygaming needs to use some of those billions its worth and make some lawmakers happy here in the states.

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The worst thing for party poker's profits would be a clear cut acceptence of the legality of online poker in the US
grey area = virtual monoploy (no pun intended)

[SinCityGuy]

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Partygaming needs to use some of those billions its worth and make some lawmakers happy here in the states.

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I've spoken with Linda Johnson about this, and she said that Party is spending a substantial amount on lobbyists in Washington.

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Partygaming needs to use some of those billions its worth and make some lawmakers happy here in the states.

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The worst thing for party poker's profits would be a clear cut acceptence of the legality of online poker in the US
grey area = virtual monoploy (no pun intended)

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This is questionable. According to the Financial Times (a london newspaper), partypoker wants to do an IPO, sell stock, and the owners would make enormous amounts of money if they could do so. What's holding them back is the questionable legal status of online gambling in the US, since most of partypoker's players are american.

[ChoicestHops]

I was going to say basically what you said. If they dont get this legal and the American government actually cracks down on illegal gambling, Party loses billions in the long term. It's in their best interest.

The IPO's what, like 3.5 billion?

[MicroBob]

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partypoker wants to do an IPO, sell stock, and the owners would make enormous amounts of money if they could do so. What's holding them back is the questionable legal status of online gambling in the US, since most of partypoker's players are american.

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nothing held them back.
the party IPO already opened on the London Stock exchange.

[StellarWind]

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This country ignores everything else the rest of the world says, so why not this, too?

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Quite possible of course.

But most of the time Americans are the ones trying to use the WTO to pry open someone else's market. Embarrassing and weakening the WTO by ignoring its orders carries a real price for American trade interests.

[grimel]

The fed, state, and local govs aren't getting a tax on it. Follow the money.

As a general rule of thumb anything the WTO is for is bad for America

[MikeNaked]

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As a general rule of thumb anything the WTO is for is bad for America

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I think you're mixed up w/ the U.N., mossback...